cravnravn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Should have done it a month ago. I thought he met with Andrews last month while we played in Tampa and at the time surgery was ruled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 I thought he met with Andrews last month while we played in Tampa and at the time surgery was ruled out?Exactly crav... It was Andrews who said don't do surgery yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 They did the platelet therapy on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 This is really sucking for 2015's season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think the O's will be Jones, Manny, and a bunch of new guys in 2016. The question is will the new guys be young prospects or a bunch of crap heap guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 O's are maintaining July 1 is the decision deadline because that's the date he could get the surgery and still be ready for opening day 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 TJ surgery set, Weits done for the year, 9 months rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 They should have traded him before the season. But I wans't even looking for that. I was looking for him to build value and he was. They better hope he can play a good bit before the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 They should have traded him before the season. But I wans't even looking for that. I was looking for him to build value and he was. They better hope he can play a good bit before the trade deadline.I saw give it one more run next year and if it doesn't work out blow the team up (only keeping young guys like Machado, Schoop, Gausman, Tillman, Britton and Bundy) and take the draft picks from Wieters and Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 The problem is you need to make a trade in a hurry. I think Davis is traded this yr if he gets hot again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think Cruz is absolutely going to be on the block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 We have up until next year's trading deadline. No need to trade Cruz. Offer him a qualifying deal. He either comes back for one more season and we can trade him next trade deadline or we get a draft pick next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Didn't they change that rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Cruz and Davis aren't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 We're only sellers this year if we fall out of contention... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think Cruz is absolutely going to be on the block. Im glad you are not our GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Cruz and Davis aren't going anywhere.Neither will be on this team in 2016 the way I see it. I think Cruz will be elsewhere next yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Didn't they change that rule?Unless they recently changed it for next year I don't think so. I know Boras wants it changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Question: do you try and offer Wieters a fair contract extension now? I doubt Boras would even consider, but hypothetically if you could sign him now would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I don't think so at all, because you're going to be forced to pay for a player based on skills that he might not have anymore. Too risky; i'd rather see him walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Question: do you try and offer Wieters a fair contract extension now? I doubt Boras would even consider, but hypothetically if you could sign him now would you?Sure why not. It shows the fan base you tried when he walks away. Boas will never agree so you are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I disagree because, in our circumstance, it ends up looking worse trying and failing to sign someone versus not trying at all. Too much recent history of tiptoeing into (and out of) a negotiation for it to help public perception any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who knows with perception. I don't expect Matt to be here in 2016. He was really raising his value this yr and now that is up in smoke. I figure the worst case happens. He plays lights out starting right around trade deadline next yr drives his value into outerspace and he simply walks away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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