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Why woudl I be joking that Joe and the guys he throws to should work out all the bugs in their game? Other than Daniels and SS nobody was totally on the same page with Joe. I think it is from Daniels being experienced in this system and Smith being a consummate pro and being able to adapt. Working with guys is more for the guys Joe throws to than him.

 

I would say Unitas, Berry, and Moore knew what they were talking about.

 

i know all about Unitas and Berry working out and that was evenings after practice. They had jobs in the off season.

 

1. There is more than enough opportunity for them to get down timing and chemistry during OTA's and Training camp....plus the 5 day grind each week between games (another 16 weeks worth).

2. What can they accomplish on some high school football field? In a few hours? There's nobody to press and defend or rush. How nice would it be for Torrey or somebody to blow an ACL stepping in a hole/divot on some non NFL field.

2A....and I don't want Joe unwinding and throwing all out until his arm strength is 100%. It would bee too cool for him to blow something out because he is not in shape.

3. Joe's been throwing the ball to Torrey for 4 years. The reps have to be in the thousands. Thousands of them.

4. Torrey has hit his ceiling. He's not going to get better. What you see is what you get with Torrey. He has a significant body of work to make it plain to see the weakness in his game. He'll never be a #1. He's not tough enough. He can't break press coverage. He has a limited route tree where he's an effective weapon. He disappears.

5.Yea...All that 2 hours on one or 2 Saturdays in the Spring can accomplish is to shut your yap that this is all they need to be great. If they don't do it, then this will be your great insight as to why Torrey drops passes, has trouble getting open unless it's a go route, doesn't see the ball, doesn't fight for the ball and still catches with his chest.

6. 4 Friggn'n Years of Torrey running the same route and Joe throwing the same pass...and a couple of Saturday afternoons in the off season will change everything.

 

51 NFL players got more catches than Torrey this year. 51. 42 averaged more yards per catch. 42.

What kind of dent in these numbers do you see a couple of Saturdays in the off season playing pitch and catch will do?

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Why woudl I be joking that Joe and the guys he throws to should work out all the bugs in their game? Other than Daniels and SS nobody was totally on the same page with Joe. I think it is from Daniels being experienced in this system and Smith being a consummate pro and being able to adapt. Working with guys is more for the guys Joe throws to than him.

 

I would say Unitas, Berry, and Moore knew what they were talking about.

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Is there benefit to extra hours? Yes.

 

Will qbs still make bad throws? Yes.

 

Is there any way to know which throws are "wrong page" and which are just misses? Not for a lot of them.

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Is there benefit to extra hours? Yes.

 

Will qbs still make bad throws? Yes.

 

Is there any way to know which throes are "wrong page" and which are just misses? Not for a lot of them.

 

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All wrong page throws and missed throws would not happen if Joe and Torrey played pitch and catch for 2 Saturdays in the off season on some high school field.

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i know all about Unitas and Berry working out and that was evenings after practice. They had jobs in the off season.

 

1. There is more than enough opportunity for them to get down timing and chemistry during OTA's and Training camp....plus the 5 day grind each week between games (another 16 weeks worth).

2. What can they accomplish on some high school football field? In a few hours? There's nobody to press and defend or rush. How nice would it be for Torrey or somebody to blow an ACL stepping in a hole/divot on some non NFL field.

2A....and I don't want Joe unwinding and throwing all out until his arm strength is 100%. It would bee too cool for him to blow something out because he is not in shape.

3. Joe's been throwing the ball to Torrey for 4 years. The reps have to be in the thousands. Thousands of them.

4. Torrey has hit his ceiling. He's not going to get better. What you see is what you get with Torrey. He has a significant body of work to make it plain to see the weakness in his game. He'll never be a #1. He's not tough enough. He can't break press coverage. He has a limited route tree where he's an effective weapon. He disappears.

5.Yea...All that 2 hours on one or 2 Saturdays in the Spring can accomplish is to shut your yap that this is all they need to be great. If they don't do it, then this will be your great insight as to why Torrey drops passes, has trouble getting open unless it's a go route, doesn't see the ball, doesn't fight for the ball and still catches with his chest.

6. 4 Friggn'n Years of Torrey running the same route and Joe throwing the same pass...and a couple of Saturday afternoons in the off season will change everything.

 

51 NFL players got more catches than Torrey this year. 51. 42 averaged more yards per catch. 42.

What kind of dent in these numbers do you see a couple of Saturdays in the off season playing pitch and catch will do?

 

I wanted to vote this a plus more than once but the site wouldn't let me!!

 

(Maybe if the moderators had gotten together and practiced on weekends they could have gotten my multiple votes to work)

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i know all about Unitas and Berry working out and that was evenings after practice. They had jobs in the off season.

 

1. There is more than enough opportunity for them to get down timing and chemistry during OTA's and Training camp....plus the 5 day grind each week between games (another 16 weeks worth).

2. What can they accomplish on some high school football field? In a few hours? There's nobody to press and defend or rush. How nice would it be for Torrey or somebody to blow an ACL stepping in a hole/divot on some non NFL field.

2A....and I don't want Joe unwinding and throwing all out until his arm strength is 100%. It would bee too cool for him to blow something out because he is not in shape.

3. Joe's been throwing the ball to Torrey for 4 years. The reps have to be in the thousands. Thousands of them.

4. Torrey has hit his ceiling. He's not going to get better. What you see is what you get with Torrey. He has a significant body of work to make it plain to see the weakness in his game. He'll never be a #1. He's not tough enough. He can't break press coverage. He has a limited route tree where he's an effective weapon. He disappears.

5.Yea...All that 2 hours on one or 2 Saturdays in the Spring can accomplish is to shut your yap that this is all they need to be great. If they don't do it, then this will be your great insight as to why Torrey drops passes, has trouble getting open unless it's a go route, doesn't see the ball, doesn't fight for the ball and still catches with his chest.

6. 4 Friggn'n Years of Torrey running the same route and Joe throwing the same pass...and a couple of Saturday afternoons in the off season will change everything.

 

51 NFL players got more catches than Torrey this year. 51. 42 averaged more yards per catch. 42.

What kind of dent in these numbers do you see a couple of Saturdays in the off season playing pitch and catch will do?

So I guess the big QB's who do it in the league that have more consistency are wasting their time.

 

 

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Is there benefit to extra hours? Yes.

 

Will qbs still make bad throws? Yes.

 

Is there any way to know which throws are "wrong page" and which are just misses? Not for a lot of them.

The bad throw and the more time working together are two differnt things.

 

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Oh with the rfiring of John Fox and his entire staff in Denver makes for an interesting situation. Would Kubes change his mind on coming back if he got to go back there

 

I gotta think Denver will have their eye on a more splashy hire. It's not like they necessarily need an offensive specialist like Chicago. Still - I am worried.

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Aaron Wilson is tweeting Kubiak was aware of the Denver-Fox rumors yesterday and took them into account when making his decision to stay. Kubiak didn't have to announce his intention to stay as quickly as he did, so I believe AW's story. AW also tweeted that Kubiak is building a home in OM.

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