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#281 thundercleetz

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 08:02 AM

So I actually retract my statement from earlier: Davis, Wieters, Chen... Take the draft picks and let them go. We can't win with these guys, so what's the point in re-signing them well into their mid-30s? If we had a solid starting pitching corps where we could make a legitimate run, I would say do what it takes. We do not have the pitching.

Save the money for Machado and Schoop. Sign Parra with the money we offered to Markakis last offseason. Machado will be our three hitter next season, no doubt. Top prospect Trey Mancini will be our first baseman. Joseph has proven he can hit and defend just as well as Wieters, and Clevanger is no slouch. Find another on base guy who can hit near the top of the lineup with Parra. Then focus on pitching pitching pitching.

Sure, Duquette's acquisitions didn't work this season. Let's see what he can do this offseason knowing we will have lots of holes to fill. Until we get legitimate starting pitching, it won't matter who plays offense.
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#282 varaven45

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 08:31 AM

Cleetz,

 

Agreed, especially on paragraph 2.   Start building around playmakers and add SP.  There a few guys in Triple A Norfolk (e.g. Christian Walker) and AA who can help. 

In the meantime, we are looking at a .500 club ( + or -) the next few years unless Angelos and his henchmen shockingly open up their wallets (LOL & LMFAO) and Duquette gets game (also LOL).

I still think Duquette is still hurting/miffed over last years Toronto situation and is just biding his time/.  Bad karma.            


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:24 PM

I wouldn't agree it was a 180, but I do agree he didn't succeed with the strategy this year.

If you look at signings like Cruz and Jimenez, they both came after the market cleared. They were relatively cheap, low cost bets. He had a chance to do the same with Kendrys Morales this year and we didn't pull the trigger, which in hindsight looks like a fail given what he did in KC and what we've lacked... But not sure how many other options really fit the mold (of his strategy) this year
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:26 PM

Not sure I like the "our AAA guys can do it" model... If they could, there's little reason we wouldn't be seeing them this year with all the other fails so far. I'm convinced our farm is far weaker than we hear.

That said, I agree on Wieters. Still torn in Chen and Davis. I'd keep Chen first I think.
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 08:49 PM

Not sure I like the "our AAA guys can do it" model... If they could, there's little reason we wouldn't be seeing them this year with all the other fails so far. I'm convinced our farm is far weaker than we hear.

That said, I agree on Wieters. Still torn in Chen and Davis. I'd keep Chen first I think.


For pitching I am not saying use the AAA model. I am saying Duquette found Chen and Gonzo once before, I want to see him buy low on guys with good potential that can be mid to back end starters. I do not want to pay Chen #2 starter money when he can't get past the sixth inning.

For hitting, yes we have to be smart on our payroll. Pay Davis and we might not be able to pay Machado. Mancini is an interesting prospect at first, and Christian Walker isn't a bad backup option. Parra seems more in our price range. He likes it on Baltimore and gets along well with our guys. Most importantly he gets on base. I could see the Mets paying Davis big money.

Our starting pitching only goes as far as Gausman, Bundy and Harvey take us. Gausman has a lot of skill, but he needs to do a better job of pitching in the first inning and getting guys out on 0-2 counts. Those two situations this year have killed him. I like his gutsiness though. Bundy and Harvey, who knows with their injuries.
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:36 PM

While we are talking about Schoop (and others to retain) - why in the heck is batting 8th ? He's arguably our hottest hitter and should be batting at or near the top of the lineup, in front of or behind Machado. Just sayin .....
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Posted 27 August 2015 - 03:55 AM

Schoop's HR was 484.5 ft!

http://mlb.mlb.com/r...nt_id=417382983
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Posted 27 August 2015 - 06:50 PM

Wow such a HR there!


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