ForceEight Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 For this week, against the Steelers: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d392bd Summary: Throw to Heap often, move inside protection outside and help with TE/RB chipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
52isUnstoppable Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 For this week, against the Steelers: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d392bd Summary: Throw to Heap often, move inside protection outside and help with TE/RB chipping. I'd be a lot more comfortable doing the exact opposite of whatever billick says to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMoreHon Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 yeah really 52! I would do the exact opposite. why would someone want his opinion on offensive scheme anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Our players inability to grasp the concepts or schemes Billick was running does not mean Billick has no clue what he's doing... it means he had a communication problem. Ironic, of course, considering he is a communication guru as well. But still, the point remains... what Billick wanted to do and what Billick was able to do are probably two very, very different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Our players inability to grasp the concepts or schemes Billick was running does not mean Billick has no clue what he's doing... it means he had a communication problem. Ironic, of course, considering he is a communication guru as well. But still, the point remains... what Billick wanted to do and what Billick was able to do are probably two very, very different things. Its interesting but when you look at former/current Rave coaches: Billick - offensive guru, Marvin Lewis - defensive guru and Harbs - special teams guru - all of them as head coaches have fallen short in their respective areas of expertise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Regardless of his inability to coach our team when he was the coach, Billick outlines our path to victory, and based on the tape, it is pretty simple. Dont allow them to beat us with their speed around the edges, and Flacco can go to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Our players inability to grasp the concepts or schemes Billick was running does not mean Billick has no clue what he's doing... it means he had a communication problem. Ironic, of course, considering he is a communication guru as well. But still, the point remains... what Billick wanted to do and what Billick was able to do are probably two very, very different things. So if the players don't get it, you keep doing it? No Moss......no offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 So if the players don't get it, you keep doing it? No Moss......no offense. If he'd changed it up (which has gone unacknowledged as what actually happened), you'd complain about not sticking to it, or not having conviction in what's right, or not knowing what he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I'd be a lot more comfortable doing the exact opposite of whatever billick says to do. LOL! I was thinking the same exact thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 If he'd changed it up (which has gone unacknowledged as what actually happened), you'd complain about not sticking to it, or not having conviction in what's right, or not knowing what he's doing. Let's run all the players we have in the middle of the line and hope we get something going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Let's run all the players we have in the middle of the line and hope we get something going? Uh, no? All he suggested was a concentration on outside blocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Uh, no? All he suggested was a concentration on outside blocking. You mean like the WRs saying, "What the hell are we doing here all we do is block." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You mean like the WRs saying, "What the hell are we doing here all we do is block." Some things don't change rm52. Under Harbaugh it's "If you don't have the ball, then you're blocking." One reason the Ravens are 5th in rushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Some things don't change rm52. Under Harbaugh it's "If you don't have the ball, then you're blocking." One reason the Ravens are 5th in rushing. The reason why the Ravens are 5th is due to an unbalanced line and at time there is more then 2 WRs out there. Go watch the Ravens/Titans playoff game here and you will see Billick's offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBilly Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Its interesting but when you look at former/current Rave coaches: Billick - offensive guru, Marvin Lewis - defensive guru and Harbs - special teams guru - all of them as head coaches have fallen short in their respective areas of expertise. Tell me something I don't know. Label a person a guru in their profession, and they suddenly become morons. I'd be a lot more comfortable doing the exact opposite of whatever billick says to do. :lol: Funniest post in the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yea..I get that rm52...that's why I said one reason for their success at running. There are a bunch of reasons...Flacco's a rookie...needs to keep the D honest...but like most years under Billick this team is committed to running the ball. The ypc isn't impressive....the number of attemps tells the story. Now that gives Cam a lot of options because with this strong base of running he can burn you with the big play. Something Billick could never do except when he had our man Trent Dilfer. Nov. 20, 2005: Ravens 16, Steelers 13,OT (Sun photo by Kenneth K. Lam / November 20, 2005) Ravens kicker Matt Stover and his teammates celebrate his 44-yard game-winning field goal in overtime against the Steelers. Stover's kick capped the winning, 30-yard drive and the 3-hour, 42-minute marathon, sending thousands of Steelers fans home unhappy and causing a raucous on-field celebration that spilled into an electric locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 So if the players don't get it, you keep doing it? No Moss......no offense. Again. That was not a defense of Billick's coaching, his time here, or his coaching style. He didn't get the job done in the final years. He never got the job done offensively. He lacked something. BUT... again... that does not mean that his GOALS for the offense were right. It doesn't mean Billick doesn't know how to run an offense. They are separate questions. Does Billick know what makes NFL offenses successful? YES Was Billick able to communicate that and adapt it effectively to his players on the Ravens? NO But does the second question in any way mean that he is clueless about NFL offenses? NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Jamison Hensley shares a few thoughts on Billick...in a round about way... Cameron has gotten so much out of so little this season. He doesn't have a clear-cut No. 1 running back. He doesn't have a big-play receiver. He doesn't have a healthy offensive line. Yet armed with a rookie quarterback, Cameron has turned around an offense that regularly slumped under Brian Billick. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...0,4433784.story When you think about it, Cam should be OC of the Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenAround Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Say what you want about BB but Cameron's got one huge advantage, something Billick never had... Joe Flacco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Say what you want about BB but Cameron's got one huge advantage, something Billick never had... How many more chances did we want to give Billick, he's had his fair chance with QB's..He screwed over Trent Dilfer for Grbackwards, He screwed over Chris Redman, he threw Boller to the wolves. I dont know WTF Billick was thinking in the 06 playoff game vs The Colts, we are averaging 4 yards per carry on the ground in the 1st half, yet he decides to change the game plan in the 2nd half and 8-Ball Jamal only touches the ball 4 times..He thinks McNair can beat the Colts thru the air?? That turned out well for us. Lets not forget he only had Moss & Pepper for 1 season, and hell I could throw the ball to that freak and he'd get me a raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Say what you want about BB but Cameron's got one huge advantage, something Billick never had... Joe Flacco More like a brain. Boller was his baby all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBilly Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Say what you want about BB but Cameron's got one huge advantage, something Billick never had... Joe Flacco That advantage isn't what I'd call "huge". Not after watching your boy Joey go 11 for 28 with 2 INT's in folding for the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensNest8483 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 That advantage isn't what I'd call "huge". Not after watching your boy Joey go 11 for 28 with 2 INT's in folding for the Steelers. Your right we should go after Fitzpatrick in the offseason Flacco is going to be great, this offense is just now evolving, still missing a few parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 That advantage isn't what I'd call "huge". Not after watching your boy Joey go 11 for 28 with 2 INT's in folding for the Steelers. Because Big Ben, Palmer and others never have bad days... Roethlisberger typically blows against the Ravens. Last night, short of that final drive, his rating was under 70. And yet, I'd still have taken him every day of the week over Boller or any other QB we had over the last 7 years short of Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenAround Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 That advantage isn't what I'd call "huge". Not after watching your boy Joey go 11 for 28 with 2 INT's in folding for the Steelers. I'm sorry, how many games did Palmer start in his rookie season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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