cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 In a current country song, Jamey Johnson sings the refrain, "You should have seen it in color," referring to a grandfather's vivid memories of times past captured in black-and-white photographs. Like those old photos, most documents of the legendary Baltimore Colts- New York Giants 1958 NFL title game -- the game that launched pro football into American sports ascendancy -- have existed in black and white. But producers of ESPN's documentary The Greatest Game Ever Played (9 p.m. tomorrow) have pieced together footage of the game for this 50th anniversary special and colorized it. The fact of the matter is, though -- just like in the song -- it is hearing the recollections of the grandpas that truly brings this event into living color. ESPN Films took players from that game (and a selected few others) and matched them with current Indianapolis Colts and New York Giants, the teams that have won the past two Super Bowls -- among them: Art Donovan with Michael Strahan, Raymond Berry with Tony Dungy, Lenny Moore with Brandon Jacobs, Pat Summerall with Adam Vinatieri, Gino Marchetti and Frank Gifford with Tom Coughlin. This could have come off as nothing more than a gimmick, but it is what most makes the documentary worth watching. The modern players let the old-timers do most of the talking, but the younger men are unfailingly respectful and seem genuinely thankful for the legacy built by the players from the 1950s. To quickly address what is probably a concern for many old Colts fans: Yes, the documentary acknowledges the departure of the team for Indianapolis. And it might not sit well with some of you to hear Colts coach Dungy say, "We feel a bond to that '58 team." But listen to it in the context of the show, and it sounds perfectly right. Dungy is an asshole... ESPN you have done an injustice to the Baltimore Colts Fans. more Hey Dungy, you should of had a bond with your kid!!!!!!! Football is an Effin GAME!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Sorry crav, I'm watching it. From what I hear they make it very clear that it's the Baltimore Colts. For me that will be one more thorn in the NFL's side to have the Sportsnation view the great legacy of Baltimore football. Let the world know, once again, that we had a huge impact on todays game. Let the world know that Baltimore has great fans. Fans will see that it was an injustice and not handled properly (the loss of a great franchise). Nothing can be done to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 trader..Vinateri?? Dungy?? what the hell do they even know about the 58 Colts?? Unitas is rolling over in his grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Traitor perhaps? Crav, I respect your hometown heroism and homerism... but this is taking it too far. Watch the game. Enjoy the game. Judge it for yourself before you let anyone else tell you what is or isn't in it or what you will or won't feel from it. If you like it, great. If you don't, then come on here and rant like crazy. Personally, I'll enjoy watching the game... and ignore most of the commentary (regardless of who it's by). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have been watching that game for years, you don't need ESPN. I got the VHS years ago, lot of great stuff from the BALTIMORE Colts. When the DVD came out I got that also, some added things to the DVD but still all about the BALTIMORE Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Is there any possible way for Biscotti to maybe be able to negociate with Colts ownership to get Baltimore's history back? Talk about making a legacy as an owner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Traitor perhaps? Crav, I respect your hometown heroism and homerism... but this is taking it too far. Watch the game. Enjoy the game. Judge it for yourself before you let anyone else tell you what is or isn't in it or what you will or won't feel from it. If you like it, great. If you don't, then come on here and rant like crazy. Personally, I'll enjoy watching the game... and ignore most of the commentary (regardless of who it's by). How can I possibly enjoy that game? when Myra lines up to kick the tieing field goal they are going to show Viniterri?? When they pan to the sidelines, they are going to show Dungy??? I cant watch that, thats mickey mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Who said they are going to cut to Vinatieri every time? Or Dungy every time? It says they are included. Again, you may not enjoy it. But you can't judge it having not even watched a moment of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Ill stick to ranting, nothing good can come out of this. How about the 15-16 year olds that are going to be watching? They will forever link Tony Dungy and the 1958 Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Who said they are going to cut to Vinatieri every time? Or Dungy every time? It says they are included. Again, you may not enjoy it. But you can't judge it having not even watched a moment of it. I think he can! If you put anything from Indy in it, it is wrong. That game or team had nothing to do with Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 AMEN RM 52 I dont link the Ravens with "The Drive" or "The Fumble" thats Clevelands history.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BallTMore Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have to admit. I'm looking forward to seeing this in color. I can't wait to hear Artie and Strahan. Should be very funny. Having the Indy Colts players sit with them is a bit weird, but I've come to expect that from ESPN. Perhaps they should have asked a few Ravens players to sit with then also. Maybe Vinitari and Stover with Summeral. I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 I hope to hell Arte gets in Dungys shit..He's good for that.. But I cant watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 AMEN RM 52 I dont link the Ravens with "The Drive" or "The Fumble" thats Clevelands history.. Maybe we should just stake claim to that. Wonder how the NFL would feel about putting Chip Banks, Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly on the Ravens for a look back at the Raven's Super Bowl. Blanton Collier could be on the sidelines for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hey Dungy, you should of had a bond with your kid!!!!!!! That isn't right, Crav. Not right at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 And him having a bond to the 58 Colts is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You are justifying saying that about someone's dead son over football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Is there any possible way for Biscotti to maybe be able to negociate with Colts ownership to get Baltimore's history back? Talk about making a legacy as an owner... I think its too late for that now. They have been in Indy almost as long as they were in Baltimore. Hey Dungy, you should of had a bond with your kid!!!!!!! Football is an Effin GAME!!!!!!!! That's awful. Yes, football is a game. Entertainment. Dungy is involved because he is the current coach of the team, it would have been odd for him to not be. In an era where so many current players and coaches do not know the history of the game at all, what Dungy said is a respectful nice thing. How about the 15-16 year olds that are going to be watching? They will forever link Tony Dungy and the 1958 Colts. I think most 15-16 year olds are smarter than that. And I doubt too many 15-16 year old give a rats ass about the Baltimore Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapetes Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Blame the nfl for the Colts being allowed to leave. Blame the nfl for the Colts name being taken away. Blame the NFL for us not getting a team. Blame the nfl for letting irsay own a team ever. Hell as cheap as irsay was he could save money on jerseys by keeping the Colts name. The important thing to remember is that an irsay did not own the team then. And I for one Would in no way shape or form want any team associated with any of the irsays ever again. Colts or otherwise. We moved a &^*%$# of %^&$# owner out of here. Thank the football gods for that. Thank you bob for moving your rank butt out of town. The colts loss was a minor price to pay to rid Baltimore of the likes of YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I will be interested to hear Artie Donovan, he is one of the best Indianapolis Colts ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapetes Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 The year the Colts left bear alot of simularities to the Orioles of today. Not putting a decent product on the field. Heck it might take the Os leaving to get rid of angelos. Seems like not such a bad thing. We didn't need a new team we needed a new owner. It was to be the only wat to get rid of irsay. Sometimes when a trailer gets roaches bad you have to burn the thing to get rid of the roaches. Much the same happened to the irsay owned colts. Thank You Bob for leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 And I doubt too many 15-16 year old give a rats ass about the Baltimore Colts. You just proved my point, thanks to ESPN for taking our history away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 You are justifying saying that about someone's dead son over football? It was how his son was dead..Why is it only Dungy and Reid had problems raising their kids and being a coach Hmmmm Billick didnt, Mariucci didnt.. Seems to me Dungy had his priorities mixed up..He put a GAME first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 well I'm still watching it. To set the stage...TV was still in it's infancy...more households were getting them but most football fans grew up listening to it on the radio. They was slim pickings to watch as far as NFL games...college football was king but you didn't get much of that to watch., Baltimore TV had 3...I said 3 TV channels....no more. The morons at the time were more interested in Lawrence Welk than sports. Today ESPN alone carries more sports channels. This game, for whatever reason, was the most watched NFL game ever and it was off the charts in drama, hall of fame players and overtime excitement. It changed the public's perception of the NFL for good and TV took notice....the broadcasting of games began to snowball into what we have today. However, watching the Lions on Thanksgiving is taking it too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 LOL! Check out the scoreboard clock when you watch this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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