Spen Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Please don't play the face card here. This issue had nothing to do with race. It was about our country.Oh bullshit. I'm as white as the Winchester brothers and it's obvious that if Kaep looked more like Tom Brady this wouldn't be nearly as big. You're woefully ignorant or purposely ignorant if you deny that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only ones I see who are making this about race are the left wing folkes. No one that I know- never even thought about race before I started seeing it on liberal news stations. It's always been about, to me at least, about our anthem, flag, soldiers, and country. Not the color of someone's skin color. I find this appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only ones I see who are making this about race are the left wing folkes. No one that I know- never even thought about race before I started seeing it on liberal news stations. It's always been about, to me at least, about our anthem, flag, soldiers, and country. Not the color of someone's skin color. I find this appalling. I find willful ignorance appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only ones I see who are making this about race are the left wing folkes. No one that I know- never even thought about race before I started seeing it on liberal news stations. It's always been about, to me at least, about our anthem, flag, soldiers, and country. Not the color of someone's skin color. I find this appalling.Why is it right wing folks think racism is OK? I find willful ignorance appalling.Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only ones I see who are making this about race are the left wing folkes. No one that I know- never even thought about race before I started seeing it on liberal news stations. It's always been about, to me at least, about our anthem, flag, soldiers, and country. Not the color of someone's skin color. I find this appalling.same here but the left doesnt understand that and doesnt believe it to be true or even possible. They believe no matter what at the end of the day its about race. I joined the ARMY my junior year of high school simply because I loved this country and like I said earlier I had no problem with what they did on Sunday. By he time the Anthem was playing they were standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 http://fortune.com/2017/09/29/air-force-academy-leader-addresses-racism/ The Air Force Academy superintendent actually had to call out racism in the cadets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPlkhJFfk4 I could not put it better than Pop has put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I'm as white as snow and the only problem I have with what the players are doing is the discussion seems to have lost sight of the issue. It's about what the players are doing rather than the topic that started the protests in the first place. People are arguing over the perceived disrespect for the flag, national anthem and the people that serve the USA rather than the racism and profiling of minorities by the authorities. I wish I lived in a world where we all got along as equals but I can't imagine that's ever going to happen in my life time. That said, we have to try. Afterall, if you and I remain silent who will educate the ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think that was the point of it. Pivot the topic away from the point when you don't want to talk about that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 I refuse to get into a pissing match with a skunk, Papa. You have your opinions and I have mine. End of discussion from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spen Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) I refuse to get into a pissing match with a skunk, Papa. You have your opinions and I have mine. End of discussion from me.What opinions? You claim to not know what the initial protests were about and now claim to never know race was a part of it? You could easily learn both. Do you have opinion or just an ignorant (by choice) stance? Edited October 6, 2017 by Spen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tornado700 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 What opinions? You claim to not know what the initial protests were about and now claim to never know race was a part of it? You could easily learn both. Do you have opinion or just an ignorant (by choice) stance? Answer this: What if instead of the NFL, this was MLB or the NHL protesting this. Would this still be about race? NO, it wouldn't. It would still be about protesting the SSB and flag on my dime. Why do you liberals always claim racism first all the time? That card is getting real old, real fast.BTW Spen, don't ever ask me if I'm just ignorant by choice. I've served my country for a combined total of 53 years. THAT gives me the right not to engage in a pissing contest with a skunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 If the MLB or NHL player said it was about race then it would be about race. There are plenty of govt workers who are ignorant. What does longevity have to do with being knowledgeable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 This will be my final post/thread on this board. Papa replied to my post within seconds of my rebuttal to Spen. I have noticed that he does that often. He lives on this site. Good for him but it tells me one thing. He doesn't work and has absolutely no life. None. No family and no friends. Pretty sad really. But I refuse to be on a board where all most people want to do is argue with you and try to make an ass of you simply because they disagree with what you think or say. Most of you here who revel in that sort of thing ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I simply can not chat with people like Papa and his type of ilk.Crave, Max, 82- best to you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 What opinions? You claim to not know what the initial protests were about and now claim to never know race was a part of it? You could easily learn both.Do you have opinion or just an ignorant (by choice) stance? Answer this: What if instead of the NFL, this was MLB or the NHL protesting this. Would this still be about race? NO, it wouldn't. It would still be about protesting the SSB and flag on my dime. Why do you liberals always claim racism first all the time? That card is getting real old, real fast.BTW Spen, don't ever ask me if I'm just ignorant by choice. I've served my country for a combined total of 53 years. THAT gives me the right not to engage in a pissing contest with a skunk. Respect, like patriotism, should be earned - not mandated. When you have posted numerous times that you do not even know what the protests are about even though there are plenty of places to find out why; you're ignorant by choice. NHL player Joel Ward thought about kneeling during the anthem and talked about his reasons. You could find his reasons if you wanted but I'm sure you won't. Hint it's about racial injustice - just like the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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papasmurfbell Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Respect, like patriotism, should be earned - not mandated. When you have posted numerous times that you do not even know what the protests are about even though there are plenty of places to find out why; you're ignorant by choice. NHL player Joel Ward thought about kneeling during the anthem and talked about his reasons. You could find his reasons if you wanted but I'm sure you won't. Hint it's about racial injustice - just like the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) What opinions? You claim to not know what the initial protests were about and now claim to never know race was a part of it? You could easily learn both.Do you have opinion or just an ignorant (by choice) stance? Answer this: What if instead of the NFL, this was MLB or the NHL protesting this. Would this still be about race? NO, it wouldn't. It would still be about protesting the SSB and flag on my dime. Why do you liberals always claim racism first all the time? That card is getting real old, real fast.BTW Spen, don't ever ask me if I'm just ignorant by choice. I've served my country for a combined total of 53 years. THAT gives me the right not to engage in a pissing contest with a skunk. Check out @Buccigrosss Tweet: https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/916829129735098368?s=09 How can you just make the tweet show up? Edited October 8, 2017 by Spen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Try this Toronado700. Go to your settings and hit the Ignore List.It works. Users I'm IgnoringName Group Posts Signature Messenger papasmurfbellJoined: 20-November 08 Full Member Show Hide Allow RemoveAdd a new user to my listMember's Name Ignore: Posts Signature MessagesSave Changes or Cancel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Check out @Buccigrosss Tweet: https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/916829129735098368?s=09 How can you just make the tweet show up? Bucci ManeVerified account @BuccigrossFollowMoreJ.T. Brown of the @TBLightning during the anthem tonighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_lYiKymxtU That media will not show up here so here is a YT vid of the same event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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