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#1 papasmurfbell

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:03 AM

https://www.baltimor...ewsome-harbaugh

 

The combination of a roster construction that completely lacks elite playmakers and some of the most conservative coaching schemes in the league is not working. It has not worked for a long time. Since the Ravens miraculous championship in 2012, the team has a regular season record of 34-36 with a total point differential of +14.

This level of mediocrity is unacceptable for a coaching staff that preaches continuity and a front office that continually leverages future salary cap space for stopgap solutions. With the seventh oldest roster in the NFL and the sixth least disposable cap space next offseason, the immediate future of the Ravens franchise appears bleak. 

Head coach John Harbaugh’s message has grown stale. General manager Ozzie Newsome’s philosophies have become outdated. Judging by the large increase of empty seats on gameday, many in the fanbase have lost patience with this regime. After another embarrassing and uninspired loss, the time has come for team owner Steve Bisciotti to make wholesale changes.

 


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#2 varaven45

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 12:10 PM

No worries Papa.  Relief is forthcoming.  Not soon enough, but it will come.

Probably 2019 or 2020 when we get out from under Joe's contract and we have a new GM and HC.

Until then, its sit back and lament over more < mediocrity ball.         


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#3 papasmurfbell

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 12:20 PM

I think GM and HC this winter.  Joe will be gone in 2019 I think.  I can't see them having him around past then.


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#4 krf82

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:38 PM

Certainly Joe is not functioning in this type of offense. He is very serviceable  and more than adequate in an offense that builds around his strengths.

A new administration can do this, just as Kubes did.

 

Too many forget how difficult it is to find a good quarterback of even Joe's stature.

Look at the many teams with their qb's of today.


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#5 papasmurfbell

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:41 PM

Sure Joe could be more than functional if he had a salary that was commensurate with his production and ability.  This draft there are many very good QBs.  At least 3 will be better than Joe.


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#6 varaven45

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:13 PM

Which 3 are better ?  Just curious.   


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#7 papasmurfbell

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 05:26 PM

I think Darnold, Rosen, and Allen are better.  Riley Ferguson is very interesting too.


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#8 tsylvester

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 05:44 AM

The odds and history say you are wrong about most of them.
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:49 AM

I think Darnold, Rosen, and Allen are better.  Riley Ferguson is very interesting too.

 

I want no part of Rosen. He's a franchise killer. Million Dollar arm and 10cent personality.

I love Darnold but I'm just not sure about him yet. The SC coaches have messed with his throwing motion and he is now sailing a lot of balls. He had a bit of a funky action where he dropped the throwing hand in the wind up a little but the ball was coming out fast and on target and now not so much. The kid is a leader though and is amazing with the game on the line.

 

If we draft at a spot where there is a big time QB available then we have to take him but as we are more or less stuck with Joe through 2018 I would look to build the O-Line and receiving core in the next draft and then go all out for a QB once Joe is off the books in 2019.


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#10 papasmurfbell

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:36 AM

Remember you asked who in the draft is better than Joe.  Joe isn't good so the bar is super low to find better QBs.


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#11 tsylvester

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 12:52 PM

They can get Baker Mayfield in the 3rd likely. He needs to mature, but he moves extremely well in the pocket, throws great on the run, is very accurate down field. Sure, he is short and a bit of a gambler, but he would have two years or so to mature and learn...not a bad "project", certainly better than a navy quarterback...
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#12 papasmurfbell

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:01 PM

I haven't watched enough of him.


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#13 tsylvester

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

I've seen enough of all you mentioned and would take him over all of them.
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#14 papasmurfbell

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:42 PM

And he would come later allowing picks to be used for weapons and OL help.


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#15 papasmurfbell

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:04 PM

 

 

Frank Ragnow, C/G, Arkansas  
Height: 6-5. Weight: 317. 
Projected 40 Time: 5.24. 
Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 

10/14/17: While Ragnow has played well, Arkansas hasn't been as efficient at running the ball this year. Ragnow has continued his durability and balanced play for the Razorbacks. 

7/17/17: Ragnow could be in the running to be one of the top center prospects in the 2018 NFL Draft. Over the past two seasons, he hasn't allowed a single sack while taking on excellent competition. As one can expect coming from Arkansas, Ragnow is also a tough run blocker. He is a technician who enters his senior year having made 26 straight starts. As a sophomore, Ragnow was the Razorbacks starter at right guard. He has the size to be a guard or center in the NFL.

Read more: http://walterfootbal...p#ixzz4vnh251do
Read more at http://walterfootbal...DJhjFxzy0Rmm.99

 

 

Arden Tate*, WR, Florida State  

Height: 6-5. Weight: 225.  
Projected 40 Time: 4.56. 
Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 

10/7/17: Tate has 13 receptions for 226 yards and three touchdowns this year across three games, but he has been really impressive. The huge receiver is a mismatch weapon who gives defensive backs a lot of problems. He is very dangerous to win jump balls downfield and is a real red-zone weapon. Tate's numbers are held back by playing with the backup quarterback, but Tate has huge potential and upside for the NFL.

Read more: http://walterfootbal...p#ixzz4vnjS94lW
Read more at http://walterfootbal...FJk0ZkTFr457.99

 

Simmie Cobbs Jr.*, WR, Indiana  

Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.  
Projected 40 Time: 4.55. 
Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 

10/7/17: Cobbs has 23 receptions for 272 yards and three touchdowns so far this season. In a thoroughly impressive performance, Cobbs had his way with the highly acclaimed Ohio State defense. Cobbs got the better of every corner the Buckeyes matched up against him as he totaled 149 yards and a touchdown on 11 receptions. Cobbs showed size, hands, quickness, route-running, body control, and the ability to win 50-50 passes. That was a phenomenal start to the season for Cobbs. 

7/17/17: Cobbs Jr. missed the 2016 season with an ankle injury, but he showed some big-play ability in 2015 when he caught 60 passes for 1,035 yards (17.3 average) and four touchdowns. He is a big receiver who has an intriguing skill set. Cobbs could feasibly return to Indiana if he was given a medical redshirt for the 2016 season.

Read more: http://walterfootbal...p#ixzz4vnknnxV1
Read more at http://walterfootbal...FJk0ZkTFr457.99

 

Towards the beginning of the draft guys like this could be interesting.


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#16 varaven45

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:17 PM

That's the sort of talent we've whiffed on for the past 10- 15 years.   Why don't you apply for the next GM or assistant ?   


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:20 PM

I like Cobbs. I watched the Michigan Indiana game and he showed up big in that one as well so he is doing it against the cream of the Big 10. He seems to catch most things thrown his way and that is the type of WR we need. We haven’t had that physical presence since Boldin.
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:21 PM

That's the sort of talent we've whiffed on for the past 10- 15 years.   Why don't you apply for the next GM or assistant ?


He couldn’t do any worse than our current FO at picking WRs.
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#19 papasmurfbell

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:39 AM

That's the sort of talent we've whiffed on for the past 10- 15 years.   Why don't you apply for the next GM or assistant ?   

BC I am not in the boys club.  That is what the NFL is.  They push their own and all make the same decisions.

 

 

He couldn’t do any worse than our current FO at picking WRs.

Thx.


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