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#1 oldno82

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 11:50 AM

I agree with Eisenberg on this.

 

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#2 papasmurfbell

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

I think it is mandatory


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#3 tsylvester

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:46 PM

Ah, no, RG hasn't shown he is far better than the rookie FIRST ROUND PICK. If Joe goes down, just like with every other team, the season is over. Last year with Phili was a fluke.

Keep 2, if Joe goes down throw the rookie in, why else would you trade BACK UP into the first round if you were not prepared to play him this year.

Just release RG, it is not as if teams were nor will be beating down his door to sign him. He will still be there on his couch if "needed".


But knowing this front office, they will keep 3...
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#4 papasmurfbell

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 01:26 PM

I don't think Jackson should touch the field other than emergency the whole yr.  You can mess them up by playing them to early.  


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#5 tsylvester

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 01:30 PM

There is eveidence to go either way on playing qbs too early. I agree, it can happen and I also agree, he is far from ready. However, given the way injuries plagued this team the past five or ao years, yes, one extra man can make a difference.
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#6 vmax

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 04:36 PM

This is why they get paid the big bucks. To make decisions like this.

 

Look at all the injuries last year. The Ravens shifted players all over the place and special teams.

In this respect, keeping a 3rd QB would be business as usual. Other players will have to step up.


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#7 oldno82

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Posted 18 August 2018 - 05:46 PM

They could damage Jackson's confidence if they put him in before he's ready. His ability to evade a pass rush is obvious as is his running ability but until  I see him completing a higher percentage of his passes, his passing leaves a lot to be desired. If Joe goes down for the year then I could see using him after week 10 or so. Maybe.


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#8 papasmurfbell

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Posted 19 August 2018 - 04:27 PM

They could damage Jackson's confidence if they put him in before he's ready. His ability to evade a pass rush is obvious as is his running ability but until  I see him completing a higher percentage of his passes, his passing leaves a lot to be desired. If Joe goes down for the year then I could see using him after week 10 or so. Maybe.

Basicaly agree Except I would do it later.  Billick made Boller worse.  Would he have ever been really good?  Probably not but Billick made him a panicky mess.


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Posted 20 August 2018 - 02:36 PM

I'm guessing they carry two QB's. Since Lamar is a # 1, Griffin III is the odd man out. They should keep him on the practice squad though. (If Griff III will even go there)


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#10 oldno82

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Posted 20 August 2018 - 02:50 PM

Well we'll know more by the end of the pre-season. If Jackson is still erratic on his passes and Grif stays accurate they should keep 3, IF they really do believe they've got a realistic chance of getting to the playoffs this year.


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#11 papasmurfbell

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Posted 20 August 2018 - 03:34 PM

I'm guessing they carry two QB's. Since Lamar is a # 1, Griffin III is the odd man out. They should keep him on the practice squad though. (If Griff III will even go there)
 

I don't think he is elligable for the PS anymore.  To much accured time.


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#12 papasmurfbell

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 11:01 AM

After last night I think Jackson has proved he is not ready to start.  I don't think HArbs is in a position to have the luxury of 2 QBs this yr.


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#13 tsylvester

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 11:53 AM

Right, looks like he will be listed as # 2 but if Joe gets hurt, RG will come in.. Man, a straight cover 2, all game long and he still could not make the right read, not to mention his foot work and accuracy. He has a full year of learning to do...
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#14 papasmurfbell

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 12:11 PM

You are seeing just like I am on him being #2.  On a full yr of learning we are in disagreement.  I don't think his issues are fixable.  They should have been worked on yrs ago.  He is set now.


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#15 tsylvester

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:21 PM

Hey, I am not saying he will or will not be a franchise qb, only that he is at least a year away.

Many qb's have come out of college with accuracy, footwork issues and been fine. Many have learned to read defenses. He might, I hope he does he is a good young man and with his escapability it would be great.

Steve Young took quite a few years and only then learned from a hall of fame coach and backed up a hall of fame qb before "he got it".
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#16 papasmurfbell

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

Steve Young couldn't fix TB.  That was in no way shocking.  He was pretty good in the USFL before being in TB.


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#17 tsylvester

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 04:38 PM

He was good in the USFL, yes, but thdn look at the talent level overall, that he was playing against.

Watch his 30 for 30, he will tell you what I just did; he needed Walsh and Montanna, to reach his potential.
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#18 papasmurfbell

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 06:43 PM

He was a true rookie.  I don't doubt Walsh did a ton to mold him.  I just think he would have been good in any well run org.  Say the Skins had gotten him.  I think he would have won SBs under Gibbs.  Same with Parcells.  


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Posted 26 August 2018 - 08:27 AM

I think last night proved they don't need to nor can afford to carry 3 qbs. RG is terrible, if Joe gets hurt just put the rookie in, save the roster spot for another position like offensive line. They have no back ups and I don't think they even have 5...
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#20 oldno82

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Posted 26 August 2018 - 12:33 PM

I disagree. They should carry three quarterbacks. RG had a tough first half because the line was unable to hold off the pass rush. Jackson had his 'breakout' game against the Dolphins' rookie team. If Joe goes down it will be a long year without an experienced quarterback.

 

I agree the O-line is hurting for good backups but can you imagine what the less mobile Flacco would have done if he had played? He wouldn't have been able to do much of anything because he's less mobile. 

 

Ozzie has to find some backup lineman on offense. And until they get a decent line they need to keep Griffin as the backup qb.


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