oldno82 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I agree with Eisenberg on this. https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/eisenberg-why-the-ravens-should-keep-robert-griffin-iii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think it is mandatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Ah, no, RG hasn't shown he is far better than the rookie FIRST ROUND PICK. If Joe goes down, just like with every other team, the season is over. Last year with Phili was a fluke. Keep 2, if Joe goes down throw the rookie in, why else would you trade BACK UP into the first round if you were not prepared to play him this year. Just release RG, it is not as if teams were nor will be beating down his door to sign him. He will still be there on his couch if "needed". But knowing this front office, they will keep 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I don't think Jackson should touch the field other than emergency the whole yr. You can mess them up by playing them to early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 There is eveidence to go either way on playing qbs too early. I agree, it can happen and I also agree, he is far from ready. However, given the way injuries plagued this team the past five or ao years, yes, one extra man can make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 This is why they get paid the big bucks. To make decisions like this. Look at all the injuries last year. The Ravens shifted players all over the place and special teams.In this respect, keeping a 3rd QB would be business as usual. Other players will have to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 They could damage Jackson's confidence if they put him in before he's ready. His ability to evade a pass rush is obvious as is his running ability but until I see him completing a higher percentage of his passes, his passing leaves a lot to be desired. If Joe goes down for the year then I could see using him after week 10 or so. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 They could damage Jackson's confidence if they put him in before he's ready. His ability to evade a pass rush is obvious as is his running ability but until I see him completing a higher percentage of his passes, his passing leaves a lot to be desired. If Joe goes down for the year then I could see using him after week 10 or so. Maybe.Basicaly agree Except I would do it later. Billick made Boller worse. Would he have ever been really good? Probably not but Billick made him a panicky mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm guessing they carry two QB's. Since Lamar is a # 1, Griffin III is the odd man out. They should keep him on the practice squad though. (If Griff III will even go there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Well we'll know more by the end of the pre-season. If Jackson is still erratic on his passes and Grif stays accurate they should keep 3, IF they really do believe they've got a realistic chance of getting to the playoffs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm guessing they carry two QB's. Since Lamar is a # 1, Griffin III is the odd man out. They should keep him on the practice squad though. (If Griff III will even go there) I don't think he is elligable for the PS anymore. To much accured time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 After last night I think Jackson has proved he is not ready to start. I don't think HArbs is in a position to have the luxury of 2 QBs this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Right, looks like he will be listed as # 2 but if Joe gets hurt, RG will come in.. Man, a straight cover 2, all game long and he still could not make the right read, not to mention his foot work and accuracy. He has a full year of learning to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 You are seeing just like I am on him being #2. On a full yr of learning we are in disagreement. I don't think his issues are fixable. They should have been worked on yrs ago. He is set now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hey, I am not saying he will or will not be a franchise qb, only that he is at least a year away. Many qb's have come out of college with accuracy, footwork issues and been fine. Many have learned to read defenses. He might, I hope he does he is a good young man and with his escapability it would be great. Steve Young took quite a few years and only then learned from a hall of fame coach and backed up a hall of fame qb before "he got it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Steve Young couldn't fix TB. That was in no way shocking. He was pretty good in the USFL before being in TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 He was good in the USFL, yes, but thdn look at the talent level overall, that he was playing against. Watch his 30 for 30, he will tell you what I just did; he needed Walsh and Montanna, to reach his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 He was a true rookie. I don't doubt Walsh did a ton to mold him. I just think he would have been good in any well run org. Say the Skins had gotten him. I think he would have won SBs under Gibbs. Same with Parcells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I think last night proved they don't need to nor can afford to carry 3 qbs. RG is terrible, if Joe gets hurt just put the rookie in, save the roster spot for another position like offensive line. They have no back ups and I don't think they even have 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 I disagree. They should carry three quarterbacks. RG had a tough first half because the line was unable to hold off the pass rush. Jackson had his 'breakout' game against the Dolphins' rookie team. If Joe goes down it will be a long year without an experienced quarterback. I agree the O-line is hurting for good backups but can you imagine what the less mobile Flacco would have done if he had played? He wouldn't have been able to do much of anything because he's less mobile. Ozzie has to find some backup lineman on offense. And until they get a decent line they need to keep Griffin as the backup qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 RG had time and had open receivers yet could not be accurate. He misread several defenses, making the wrong reads. Yes, the line stunk last night, but he still could have made some good throws. The rook would have done the same thing if not more because he is more maneuverable than RG was, is. There are no more linemen that are free agents worth taking. Ozzie screwed the past five drafts for linemen, thus what we have today. Even Zeus jr is terrible, he missed blocks, couldn't stay on blocks he even takled his own runningback while trying to find someone to block on the 2nd level. Saragusa is horrible, the English dude, Elama what ever, is very bad and don't get me started on the center who can't shot gun snap consistantly..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I disagree. They should carry three quarterbacks. RG had a tough first half because the line was unable to hold off the pass rush. Jackson had his 'breakout' game against the Dolphins' rookie team. If Joe goes down it will be a long year without an experienced quarterback. I agree the O-line is hurting for good backups but can you imagine what the less mobile Flacco would have done if he had played? He wouldn't have been able to do much of anything because he's less mobile. Ozzie has to find some backup lineman on offense. And until they get a decent line they need to keep Griffin as the backup qb.Not a whole lot you can do about the OL now. I have always seen that as the achiles fpr the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 RG had time and had open receivers yet could not be accurate. He misread several defenses, making the wrong reads. Yes, the line stunk last night, but he still could have made some good throws. The rook would have done the same thing if not more because he is more maneuverable than RG was, is. There are no more linemen that are free agents worth taking. Ozzie screwed the past five drafts for linemen, thus what we have today. Even Zeus jr is terrible, he missed blocks, couldn't stay on blocks he even takled his own runningback while trying to find someone to block on the 2nd level. Saragusa is horrible, the English dude, Elama what ever, is very bad and don't get me started on the center who can't shot gun snap consistantly.....I don't think Goose 2.0 will ever bounce back. Having your whole knee shredded is pretty much death to an NFL career. Dex proved that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yes Jackson is more maneuverable than either Joe or RG and he will continue to be----until he gets his first injury by running into and over tacklers. The OL needs help. I wasn't suggesting that Ozzie go get a free agent now but more towards looking to one who might get cut from some other teams for either cap savings or a roster numbers game. It's not likely but it is possible. The best we can do is hope to get some experienced backups. The O-line will be OK when Stanley and Yanda are back. Not great but OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I just don't expect Yanda to be the guy from the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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