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#1 varaven45

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 12:58 PM

With Joes departure, who is Lamars backup next year ? Where do we go; FA or draft ? Pls no RGIII jokes.
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 01:13 PM

I think Griffin would be good.  I saw he wants to comeback.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 02:15 PM

Respectfully disagree Papa. We want a mentor for a passing QB not a backup QB. Someone who can teach him about pocket awareness, mechanics, stepping up and holding on to the rock. Otherwise, Lamar like RG will have an abbreviated career.

Aside from a miserable OL, which needs to be addressed in the off-season, Lamar will need some mentoring on the above issues. If that doesnt happen we are back to square 1.
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 02:17 PM

HE convinced Lamar to stop making dangerous moves.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 03:39 PM

Tough choice but while RGIII would be a fine backup it's definitely true that Lamar needs some intense teaching for the pocket. 

 

I'm not sure who would be available to mentor him as a pocket type passer. I think that's more up to the coaches to drill him on.

 

So bottom line for me is that I dunno at this point but I'd be leaning for also getting a young qb who's shown some promise as a pocket passer and who can back him up. Lamar won't last a whole more season running the way he does now. Of course, carrying a pocket passer as your backup also means the team has to practice both types of offense.

 

I'm really up in the air about this.


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Of course, any plan to solidify the passing game depends largely on how much Jackson improves as a passer in his second pro season. While he made some plays with his arm as a rookie, he wasn’t as consistently accurate as anyone wanted. He acknowledged to reporters earlier this month that he knew his mechanics needed work.

Jackson said he has been working on those mechanics and other aspects of his passing since February.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:18 PM

I think it should be Papa. He knows everything and knows it before anyone else.
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:33 PM

I would never pretend tobe competent as a QB.  I was a lineman and I would not even be able to teach those skills at that level.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:11 PM

I think it should be Papa. He knows everything and knows it before anyone else.


Ha !
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:19 PM

IDK but one things for sure - unless Lamar fixes some big time stuff - he ain’t the long term answer.
If he repeats yesterdays performance next season, we will quickly find ourselves in the AFCN cellar.

I’m hoping he does and works his arse off in the off-season. If so, kudos to him and things will trend upwards.

If not, we will have already seen his ceiling this season. And that is why we need a contingency plan to compensate
For Joes loss plus have a QB for the future.

The QB situation should become a big deal this offseason.
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:26 PM

I am confident Cincy will reside in the cellar for a very long time.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:31 PM

IDK but one things for sure - unless Lamar fixes some big time stuff - he ain’t the long term answer.
If he repeats yesterdays performance next season, we will quickly find ourselves in the AFCN cellar.

I’m hoping he does and works his arse off in the off-season. If so, kudos to him and things will trend upwards.

If not, we will have already seen his ceiling this season. And that is why we need a contingency plan to compensate
For Joes loss plus have a QB for the future.

The QB situation should become a big deal this offseason.

 

 

I think Jackson will work extremely hard to succeed but it won't be easy or problem free. Then we've got Preston harping on the idea that accuracy can't be taught. I don't know about that but if Lamar ends next season injured or unimproved we'll be looking for a franchise qb yet again.


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Of course, any plan to solidify the passing game depends largely on how much Jackson improves as a passer in his second pro season. While he made some plays with his arm as a rookie, he wasn’t as consistently accurate as anyone wanted. He acknowledged to reporters earlier this month that he knew his mechanics needed work.

Jackson said he has been working on those mechanics and other aspects of his passing since February.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 07:38 PM

But it can't be taught.  Joe never learned it.  There are so many QBs who haven't got better at that.  It is a natural gift.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 08:29 PM

It sounds like DeCostas offseason plan needs to address OL, find a WR playmaker, and land a speedy RB. Find Lamar some weapons a legit mentor/back up and give him/them a year. If it works, great. If not, return to QB drawing board in 2020 which would not surprise.
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 08:36 PM

Why not Gus?  He is the kind of runner that works for the system and he is dirt cheep.  A speedy backup late in the draft would be smart though.  A Sproals like guy.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 09:18 PM

I think Jackson will work extremely hard to succeed but it won't be easy or problem free. Then we've got Preston harping on the idea that accuracy can't be taught. I don't know about that but if Lamar ends next season injured or unimproved we'll be looking for a franchise qb yet again.


I read one national article a few weeks ago that broke down some of Lamar's problems and the writer was adamant a lot of them were do to his mechanics. The writer thought with time and coaching those problems could be greatly reduced. The article also said how Lamar really works hard so I'm hopeful.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 05:32 AM

I read one national article a few weeks ago that broke down some of Lamar's problems and the writer was adamant a lot of them were do to his mechanics. The writer thought with time and coaching those problems could be greatly reduced. The article also said how Lamar really works hard so I'm hopeful.


I agree with this. I think he just needs time. He is a better passer than he gets credit for. As afar as backup, RG3 is perfect. Hes a good teammate, has experience doing similar things to what Jackson will do, still relatively young and I think has good value for what he can bring on the field. Like 82 said the offensive coaches can do the coaching on mechanics
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 02:42 PM

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The #Ravens are re-signing QB Robert Griffin III, per source. He was a great presence in that QB room last year and key for Lamar Jackson.

I think this is a good move.


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 03:01 PM

Agreed. But who is the real successor for Lamar. RG is good as a backup/mentor but not future leader.

Heres hoping we draft a mid to late round guy/ - not sold on Lamar.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 03:32 PM

I'm with Spen and OTR on this. I see the same things so far.

Lamar was thrown in cold and had to learn and adopt on the fly. I'm re watching his games and at times he shows very good awareness and good accuracy. That's something to build on. He has a great QB coach in James Urban who did a great job with McNabb and Vick.

Roman will put all the pieces together.

Lamar has valuable experience after playing 7 games. There is plenty to build on and with.


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“[Lamar] was amazing last year, and then they add in Mark Ingram,” Burleson said. “We forget how strong and angry of a runner he is. … [The Ravens] are just getting started. I think people assume that Lamar Jackson isn’t going to pass the ball this year, and I will tell you right now you are wrong. He’s going to light up the skies and torch the ground like he did last year.”


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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:23 PM

Breaking News that only ER posters know about and nobody else will know first but us:

 

It's RG3. Pending passing the physical.

Maybe...they draft a QB in the later rounds but it looks set for this season.


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“[Lamar] was amazing last year, and then they add in Mark Ingram,” Burleson said. “We forget how strong and angry of a runner he is. … [The Ravens] are just getting started. I think people assume that Lamar Jackson isn’t going to pass the ball this year, and I will tell you right now you are wrong. He’s going to light up the skies and torch the ground like he did last year.”





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