vmax Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Bo nails it right here. The worst fears about this offense -- that it loses effectiveness the second time around, that Jackson's passing game is a liability when needing to come from behind -- appeared to be borne out.And if the Chargers could stop this offense on a second look, what about AFC North rivals who are assured of seeing it twice a year?......https://www.pressboxonline.com/2019/02/15/whats-next-for-the-ravens-lamar-jackson-led-offense Everybody has tape now. And a whole off season to game plan. The 2019 Ravens will either morph into something new or we have at least 3 years of losing staring us in the face.Either Lamar becomes an effective pocket passer or we have at least.........""""""Greg Roman has to go where few NFL OC's have gone before. How does he maintain the running threat that Jackson posses and not get him on IR every season? How does he get Lamar to learn how to read defenses and make quick decisions...right decisions? How does he stop the fumblelitus? Turnovers kill.And....this was not a high scoring offense. Exciting to watch, but points was not their forte'. Harbaugh and his coaches have to develop a winning game plan for all 3 phases. How will these units compliment each other and work in tandem to get to 10 wins? What will the 2019 Ravens look like? Will the Defense be nearly as good? They have 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 That is exactly what I have been saying. Give DCs time to break the tape down and they will adapt. The player has to adapt also. If they don't they are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Which is why they should draft or acquire another QB. They only have 2. If and when Lamar goes down, they need another guy besides RG 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Bo nails it right here. Everybody has tape now. And a whole off season to game plan. The 2019 Ravens will either morph into something new or we have at least 3 years of losing staring us in the face.Either Lamar becomes an effective pocket passer or we have at least.........""""""Greg Roman has to go where few NFL OC's have gone before. How does he maintain the running threat that Jackson posses and not get him on IR every season? How does he get Lamar to learn how to read defenses and make quick decisions...right decisions? How does he stop the fumblelitus? Turnovers kill.And....this was not a high scoring offense. Exciting to watch, but points was not their forte'. Harbaugh and his coaches have to develop a winning game plan for all 3 phases. How will these units compliment each other and work in tandem to get to 10 wins? What will the 2019 Ravens look like? Will the Defense be nearly as good? They have 6 months. I find myself agreeing with all of you guys. Lamar has to learn how to pass and read defenses. My worry is that the first can't be taught any better and the second is impossible to execute if you can't learn to pass. I worry that Lamar had to learn how to pass in college and didn't so maybe he can't be taught. That is exactly what I have been saying. Give DCs time to break the tape down and they will adapt. The player has to adapt also. If they don't they are done. And football is a great game of adaptation. A good defense will adjust to kill you if you are one dimensional. The playerS and coaches have to make the appropriate adjustments on offense. This is a never ending cycle---unless you're unsuccessful. Which is why they should draft or acquire another QB. They only have 2. If and when Lamar goes down, they need another guy besides RG 3. We could definitely use another young quarterback with good potential. No doubt about it. Unfortunately we're in no position to get one. RGIII is the best backup option but he ain't going to be the quarterback of the future if Lamar winds up with an abruptly shortened career. This almost like a game of craps only you have to get a 7 on the first throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 More like Russian roulette ! Dont get me wrong, I like Lamar a lot but recent history and the physicality of the game shows that guys like Lamar and RG dont last long.Ultimately, next year, year after, etc. we will acquire or draft a long term solution. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Which is why they should draft or acquire another QB. They only have 2. If and when Lamar goes down, they need another guy besides RG 3.I fully agree. They can't spend a high pick. Maybe a good potential witha 5th round pick. An undervalued guy. I find myself agreeing with all of you guys. Lamar has to learn how to pass and read defenses. My worry is that the first can't be taught any better and the second is impossible to execute if you can't learn to pass. I worry that Lamar had to learn how to pass in college and didn't so maybe he can't be taught. And football is a great game of adaptation. A good defense will adjust to kill you if you are one dimensional. The playerS and coaches have to make the appropriate adjustments on offense. This is a never ending cycle---unless you're unsuccessful. We could definitely use another young quarterback with good potential. No doubt about it. Unfortunately we're in no position to get one. RGIII is the best backup option but he ain't going to be the quarterback of the future if Lamar winds up with an abruptly shortened career. This almost like a game of craps only you have to get a 7 on the first throw.I could not agree more on what Lamar should have learned in school. That is why I thought he was a bust long before the draft happened. Now that they have made the bet they have to double down on Lamar and give him the best opportunity to win. Apply the Landry Rule. I to have seen a kid comeout with his hair on fire his rookie yr and the very next yr it has all been taken away from him. He just can't adapt. If Lamar craps out then they will have to start over. It goes to what I said Ozzie leaving the team 5 yrs behind. More like Russian roulette ! Dont get me wrong, I like Lamar a lot but recent history and the physicality of the game shows that guys like Lamar and RG dont last long.Ultimately, next year, year after, etc. we will acquire or draft a long term solution. Time will tell.I expect you are pretty correct. After the 2020 season if Lamar hasn't shown he is thriving then you have to get your ducks in a row and find his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 A full off-season of practice at the QB position and hopefully a legit playmaking target should help. Hopefully at least. Some degree of patience is going to be needed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManCypher Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 U guys really aren’t raven fans, as soon as Lamar started starting games u people were saying as soon as there is tape the Ravens will lose. We still were winning games even after there was tape. Now you people have change the hate to they have an off season to game plan for Lamar. U people are always going to find a reason to put Lamar down even after he helped turn our season around. U wanted him to fail so badly and when he didn’t now you are wishing injury and hoping other DCs find a way to stop him. He was a rookie and sure there is room for improvement but to be so negative about a rookie Qb that went 6-2 shows all of you peoples true colors. Flacco was given year after year and excuse after excuse when he could not turn this thing around and still you would rather have him or anyone that looks like him. I really hope Lamar proves all of you fake ass Ravens fans wrong and that you have to deal with him being your black quarterback for the next 15 years. Go be a Broncos fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 U guys really aren’t raven fans, as soon as Lamar started starting games u people were saying as soon as there is tape the Ravens will lose. We still were winning games even after there was tape. Now you people have change the hate to they have an off season to game plan for Lamar. U people are always going to find a reason to put Lamar down even after he helped turn our season around. U wanted him to fail so badly and when he didn’t now you are wishing injury and hoping other DCs find a way to stop him. He was a rookie and sure there is room for improvement but to be so negative about a rookie Qb that went 6-2 shows all of you peoples true colors. Flacco was given year after year and excuse after excuse when he could not turn this thing around and still you would rather have him or anyone that looks like him. I really hope Lamar proves all of you fake ass Ravens fans wrong and that you have to deal with him being your black quarterback for the next 15 years. Go be a Broncos fanGo fuck yourself. Take Papa with you. Two fucking repetitive idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Stating facts or pointing out what next steps the Ravens need to do is not hating. Taking about what the Ravens need to do to keep Lamar healthy and make him successful is not hating. It's the opposite. It will be interesting as hell to see what this offense morphs into. Last year, once Lamar started, was the most fun that I had watching Ravens games since the Super Bowl run. As fans we have a lot to get excited about....and concerns. This comes with the roster and coaching changes of every off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Stating facts or pointing out what next steps the Ravens need to do is not hating. Taking about what the Ravens need to do to keep Lamar healthy and make him successful is not hating. It's the opposite. It will be interesting as hell to see what this offense morphs into. Last year, once Lamar started, was the most fun that I had watching Ravens games since the Super Bowl run. As fans we have a lot to get excited about....and concerns. This comes with the roster and coaching changes of every off season.And really I would describe my feelings as cautiously optimistic. I kind of think Lamar will do ok, but I don't know. I don't watch college football so I've only seen his games here. Up until the last game I do feel he was getting better each week. I'm not sure that poster can read anyway, he posts the same thing or close to it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 U guys really aren’t raven fans, as soon as Lamar started starting games u people were saying as soon as there is tape the Ravens will lose. We still were winning games even after there was tape. Now you people have change the hate to they have an off season to game plan for Lamar. U people are always going to find a reason to put Lamar down even after he helped turn our season around. U wanted him to fail so badly and when he didn’t now you are wishing injury and hoping other DCs find a way to stop him. He was a rookie and sure there is room for improvement but to be so negative about a rookie Qb that went 6-2 shows all of you peoples true colors. Flacco was given year after year and excuse after excuse when he could not turn this thing around and still you would rather have him or anyone that looks like him. I really hope Lamar proves all of you fake ass Ravens fans wrong and that you have to deal with him being your black quarterback for the next 15 years. Go be a Broncos fanThey don't get game tape broken down for for tendancies and tells in weeks. It takes a lot of time to go over it over and over to see these things. That is why a player can go from all world in one season to being pathetic the next. I have seen it to many times. Go fuck yourself. Take Papa with you. Two fucking repetitive idiots.How about you go fuck yourself. Or better yet lets see you in the Damascas HS locker room. Stating facts or pointing out what next steps the Ravens need to do is not hating. Taking about what the Ravens need to do to keep Lamar healthy and make him successful is not hating. It's the opposite. It will be interesting as hell to see what this offense morphs into. Last year, once Lamar started, was the most fun that I had watching Ravens games since the Super Bowl run. As fans we have a lot to get excited about....and concerns. This comes with the roster and coaching changes of every off season.Totally agree. Self deluding does not address issues. It is Chamberlainesque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 How about you go fuck yourself. Or better yet lets see you in the Damascas HS locker room. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I like Lamar and am certainly hoping he works out. He's a good leader and elevates the play of those around him. He is unproven as a passer in the NFL and he scored 3 from the bottom in PFF's passer rating. So he has to improve. None of what has been said here by any of the posters is in anyway racist or prejudiced and it's insulting to be told that's what the people are here. U guys really aren’t raven fans, as soon as Lamar started starting games u people were saying as soon as there is tape the Ravens will lose. We still were winning games even after there was tape. Now you people have change the hate to they have an off season to game plan for Lamar. U people are always going to find a reason to put Lamar down even after he helped turn our season around. U wanted him to fail so badly and when he didn’t now you are wishing injury and hoping other DCs find a way to stop him. He was a rookie and sure there is room for improvement but to be so negative about a rookie Qb that went 6-2 shows all of you peoples true colors. Flacco was given year after year and excuse after excuse when he could not turn this thing around and still you would rather have him or anyone that looks like him. I really hope Lamar proves all of you fake ass Ravens fans wrong and that you have to deal with him being your black quarterback for the next 15 years. Go be a Broncos fan Get your facts and act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 What?Google Damascas HS. It is in the news right now. I like Lamar and am certainly hoping he works out. He's a good leader and elevates the play of those around him. He is unproven as a passer in the NFL and he scored 3 from the bottom in PFF's passer rating. So he has to improve. None of what has been said here by any of the posters is in anyway racist or prejudiced and it's insulting to be told that's what the people are here. Get your facts and act together.Yeah it is a very basic evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 How about you go fuck yourself. Or better yet lets see you in the Damascas HS locker room. You want me to be violated with a broomstick? Dude, thats fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Seems like a plan to me. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 guys...you're distracting me....The broomstick thing made my mind think of this.... and then this.... Can we clean it up a little so I can get back to this?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vmax Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 Very refreshing to hear this.... “He’s got all the ability in the world,” Roman said. “He’s got the right mindset. Nothing fazes him. He’s one heck of a natural leader.” .....“He has a great feel for the game, and he can do things you can’t coach,” Roman said. “He has really, really good field vision. That’s something we noticed last spring. Often he’ll just see guys open, he’ll see the leverage take place. Not all guys are like that. That’s a great starting point. Steve McNair was like that. Steve just had an uncanny ability to see guys that might not have been part of the progression.“Lamar’s working. Before he left there was a good plan put in place. He’s young, but he loves to win. I think he has a great perspective on the NFL and what it takes to be successful. Like most great players I’ve been around, he’s probably his harshest critic. And that’s a beautiful thing. We’ll see him in April when he shows up and I’m sure he’ll have another club in his bag.”...https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/oc-greg-roman-says-lamar-jackson-focused-on-improving-throwing-fundamentals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Yeah I know Roman has been very big on Lamar and I see some of the same things...natural leader especially. I like what he says in your signature quote too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 Right now and until the pre season games reveal more, I'm on the optimistic side regarding Lamar and this offense in transition. I love Romans attitude. And I love Lamar's. I have this feeling he is totally confident that he will show all his doubters wrong....that this criticism is fueling and driving him...like he's on a mission. It seems to this point nothing phases him....nothing's too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I agree I love Roman's perspective. That is why I wanted him made OC when he was hired. They wasted 2 yrs with Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Right now and until the pre season games reveal more, I'm on the optimistic side regarding Lamar and this offense in transition. I love Romans attitude. And I love Lamar's. I have this feeling he is totally confident that he will show all his doubters wrong....that this criticism is fueling and driving him...like he's on a mission. It seems to this point nothing phases him....nothing's too big.It really does seem like he is working hard and really wants to succeed. Unlike Papa who is content with failing over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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