Geronimo

we are 3-4, i say he's playing below average, he has a 3 year 62.5 million dollar contract and i expect more from an offense that has a QB being paid that much money. with the exception of the denver game, the very first game 7 of the 11 guys who started ever played together, the defense has played pretty damn good. in our 3 other losses the defense surrendered 23, 19, and 19 points, thats an average of 20 points and Joe couldn't get the job done.

how are you going to start a topic then when i respond you go and say something like this? If you wanted everyone to come on here and rave about how Joe is playing then you should have qualified that in the Topic heading so that i would know that it's only for Joe Flacco Groupies and not people with unbiased opinions.

what am i exaggerating , you put up matt ryans contract why? just to show me there was a qb getting paid more than joe that has a below.500 record. thats it, fine then, joe is not the only high price QB that has a losing record , thats still doesn't absolve him from the responsibility of being the qb of a 3-4 team. the only exaggeration going on are the excuses the groupies give for why it's not on Joe we are 3-4, now thats an exaggeration

we can use this same logic for Haloti Ngata then , The guy you called out. If it's ok for us to be 3-4 and not put any of the burden on Joe you have to do the same for Haloti but you didn't do that because you're not a ngata groupie , you're a Flacco groupie and a hypocrite.

let me get this straight, i know you are not saying because Matt Ryan makes more money and is a bum now, that Joe Flacco can also be a bum because he doesn't make as much. Well there you have it, it's ok for Joe and the ravens to be 3-4 because matt ryan is 2-5 LOL WOW, the things groupies come up with

I understand that, and hopefully he gets it together and he has a winning record this year(playoffs again), but as of today he's not getting it done and the fact that he's making 62.5 over 3 years 3-4 is unacceptable. He's the QB, the leader , the main guy and no one is holding him accountable,his groupies are just making excuses for him.

what else is there?

I don't hate Flacco, i expect more from him with the money he is making, and i see i'm the only one on here that has high expectations for him. Haloti Ngata is eating up two blockers most of the time and you expect more, i get it. Flacco has us playing from behind in the last 5 games and he's the QB , the guy with the ball in his hands every offensive play, the guy responsible for our point production, the guy with the 2nd highest contract in the league and not one of you says a word about needing him to be better. if you weren't so busy being a groupie and looked at it from the POV of a non-groupie you would understand he's not living up to his contract and we need more from him.

I stand corrected, as i said earlier, Joe is not the only high priced QB under .500, he is the HIGHEST paid QB under .500, but that doesn't mean anything, now does it groupie?

i already know Money, it's everyone else's fault but Flacco, the second highest paid player in the league. I already stated that you groupies blame everyone but Flacco and you go and do it again as if what you're saying hasn't been said already. I know, it's everyone else's fault but Flacco, i got it. Who is the only player on the team that carries around a win-loss record? answer: Flacco , but when it comes to why are we 3-4, it's everyone but Flacco.

as of today, it's everyone on this teams fault except Flacco, it's castillo, it's harbaugh, it's the o-line, it's caldwell, it's the defense , it's Ozzie ,what about the 2nd highest paid player in the league, what about the QB, the QB shoulders the responsibility for every team in the league except round here

they only lost two starters, and the only reason i brought that up is because groupies are quick to blame the OC , just like last year, injuries , which every team has to deal with, the defense , which is rebuilt , they blame everyone except the 2nd highest paid player in the league. Flacco makes more money than every player in the league and never gets any of the blame when we lose, thats incredulous to me, thats whats a little disingenuous to me.

Funny how you can point out the faults of a defense that was rebuilt and say nothing about an offense that lost 2 players, Birk and Boldin, with Boldin being a player that all you groupies are saying wasn't needed anyway. So why is the offense playing so poorly with basically the same players? answer: Flacco

you're right , i'm wrong, Joe is not the ONLY high priced QB under .500 , he is THE HIGHEST paid QB under .500 , my bad , thanks for correcting me.

I'm flabbergasted at the excuses you groupies are providing, at second thought no i'm not, thats your job, Comparing Joe to Brady is a joke, Brady 6-2 Joe 3-4 nuff said. Joe is the only high priced qb that is under .500 right now and Romo is .500 but he's putting the points up , his defense just can't stop anyone. with the exception of the denver 2nd half the defense has performed more than admirably especially with so many new players. so who's fault is it that we are 3-4 and starting slow every game, it's on Joe. he's the QB, he's making the money , he shoulders the blame , it's not even a conversation.

Your theory is that because Joe scored 27 he's not stupid. Your theory is not the wonderlic, and if thats what you took from my last post then you're just as stupid as Joe. if you're judging Joe's intelligence off of that test it's a flawed because mark sanchez scored 28 and he's more stupid than Joe. Here's a suggestion for you Money aka Joe Flacco's number one Groupie, take up some english comprehension classes because every post of mine you respond to you just can't seem to understand. BTW Vince Young 30-17 as an NFL starter another wonderlic theory down the chute. Oh and Joe Flacco is still stupid no matter what BS logic or reasoning you Flacco groupies come up with. defending flacco by bringing up a wonderlic test, LOL, i can't wait to see what else you come up with. I'm talking about OUR QB and somehow Troy Smith and Vince Young get brought up, so typical.

mark sanchez scored a 28, well there goes your wonderlic theory

Joe is stupid , if you can't see that then you are just as stupid as he is. Buffalo showed us just how stupid Joe is. And he can't throw a deep ball on target to save his life. the pocket collapses around him and instead of getting out of there and running he takes sacks. if the first option isn't there he's up shitscreek. It took him 3 years to get comfortable with this system, it would take him another three to learn a new one. BTW Joe Flacco is stupid

Thats not what i said

whats so funny crave?

If they are going to start over with a new OC, i'm going to assume that they are going to keep the system and have the new guy just calling the plays. Joe is not the brightest of QB's and to have him learn a new system is going to set us back years. So i'm just hoping IF a new guy comes in, he is just adding on some plays and calling the plays because Joe is aaawww shucks stupid.

we can't run the ball right now for whatever reason, we need a change in philosophy, insert Juice and use the pass to set up the run. Joe is throwing wheel routes to Leach when Juice is far more mobile and the better pass catcher. you could potentially have Juice in there as the fullback in a two back set, with a TE and two WR's and have 5 legitimate receivers on the field with YAC ability. if you pass most of the time with that personnel you could also run here and there and i guarantee our yards per carry average would go up because the defense is thinking pass. Juice is a weapon we are not using and i don't know why especially since our running game is atrocious. raven nation may not like it because of our history of having a running game but if it works i personally wouldn't care how we look just as long as it's successful. Juice can play all over the field and would make our offense more versatile. let the Juice loose

Asa has an eight game suspension

nevermind

when you pay a QB 62.5 over three years i'm expecting him to make up for any deficiencies the team has. thats what you're paying him for, with all of the crying you guys are doing about everyone but Joe we still had a chance to win that game and JOE threw another int. Joe's performance was the reason we loss and blaming the OC(again just like last year), is once again treating Joe like a big baby. We have no nasty linemen, you know why, because Joe doesn't demand of them to be nasty, Joe is too laid back, and if Joe isn't going to do it then Harbaugh needs to realize we have a softee at QB and he should do it. Joe is not soft physically , he's soft as a leader thats why the offensive lineman play soft because they're taking there q from Joe, Joe's laid back and they block laid back. if joe was fiery and passionate those guys would block with fire and passion, but instead we blame everyone but the guy that has the ball in his hands every offensive play and making the big bucks. BTW, we'll be 4-3 at the bye