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  1. Ditto. There won't be a good CB left for us. Collins and Peters will be gone and Kevin Johnson long gone. The top CB will go in the top 10 or 15. The run on pass rushers will drop somebody good and it could be Mel Gordon. Id be excited. We'd have another Jamal to wear the defense down and we can still get our corner and receiver later on.
  2. But they are desperate for secondary help as we saw in the POs and would go for Jaelen Collins or Marcus Peters. TP just retired.
  3. Ozzie says here he'll pick the BAA and stick to his board and believes defense wins championships and added, I was an on offense in NFL. Sometimes the board just stacks up for defense as the BAA like last year. Maycock has Ravens drafting Marcus Peters and Maxx Strong in first two rounds. That would be awesome but Peters has baggage so remember the sign on the door. But several players are dropping like Dupree because of poor 40 time and Strong because of injured hand and someone has us getting Jaelen Collins but remember, Cleve, Piss and Cinci are drafting in front of us and need defensive help. I don't see Collins or Peters dropping to us but possibly Dupree and Strong.
  4. There's suppose to be a sign on the door of the Ravens War Room that says yesterday's behavior is a good indicator of tomorrow's behavior. My guess is Bisciotti put it there and is reminding everyone about character. DGB would be a nightmare and especially for him after Ray Rice so rule him out. Bisciotti said he seriously considered selling the team.
  5. If Dupree or Gregory are there Ozzie will jump on them.
  6. OLB Bud Dupree if he drops due to poor 40 time at his pro workout. The last time Ravens got an OLB who dropped because of poor 40 time was Suggs who said Im a football player, not a track star. HARBs raved about him at the presser. Has a motor and compared to Adelius Thomas. Had 23 sacks in college but scored a 13 on Wonderlick Test and called dumb by some scouts. He could be falling. WR Perriman would probably be there. He's a #1 receiver not afraid to go over the middle and Ravens don't have one but he also is unpolished as route runner and dropped 14% of his passes. http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/insider/story/_/id/12695891/mel-kiper-jr-makes-picks-gm-every-nfl-team-2015-nfl-draft
  7. Here's a bunch of mocks for 1st round. I honestly just don't know and after last year I might not even try to guess. Nobody got Mosley and Jernigan last year. Nobody. Ravens are one of 5 teams that have not drafted any offensive players in the 1st round in last 5 years Kiper has us drafting Marcus Peters but he has some baggage on him. I hear there's a sign on the door of the Ravens War Room that says yesterday's behavior is a good indicator of tomorrow's behavior. Sounds like Bisciotti isn't going to take any malcontents which Peters is. Beside, I have him going to Squeelers. Others have them getting Collins of Bama but he'll probably be gone by then leaving Peters for Piss. Strong is the other most mentioned in the link for Ravens but I had Strong gone before us but he just injured his hand or something and is supposed to be sliding. Ravens might be able to get him in 2d by trading up like they did for A. Brown. I'm shocked anyone would list Kevin Johnson for Ravens. Even Ozzie just said he'll be gone by 26. Sounds about right. http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/19077/ravens-2015-mock-draft-tracker-1-0
  8. But Moag got even with Glazer who jumped for the money when he said he was going to take it off the table. Moag knew Glazer was using him to get a new stadium in Tampa but Glazer really wanted to come here but Moag ordered his secretary not to take any calls from him. Glazer was pissed when Art got the money instead of him but he learned the buck does stop in Baltimore not Tampa-lol. And it all started with that Colts exhibition game in Tampa. Art of course had to sell the team in the end. His debt kept rising because the interest rate alone was $25M and he made a late payment. He was still within the bank's guidelines but not the NFLs. Tags met with him to sell the team. It was bad for an owner to have so much debt and to miss payments. Enter Bisciotti who offered Art $300M up front and $300M later after he had time to learn the business. That allowed Art to pay off his debt and ease out while Bisciotti learned the business from him. Art got $600M for the team after paying $4M for it in the early 60s. Art wasn't a bad business man after all and Bisciotti got all his money back already at least in the team's value. It's now worth $1.5B and rising.
  9. Thanks, guys. That's what Herb Belgrad asked me, how do you know all our business. He used to work out at Bally's in White Marsh and sometimes he brought Boogie Weinglass in with him who would have probably been the owner of the new franchise team. Tags didn't like him because he had a pony tail-lol. I was the only guy in the gym who knew who they were. I walked in the hot tub and they were sitting there. I was besides myself and thanked Herb for all the work he did in trying to bring us a team. Boogie was Barry Levenson's best friend and featured in his mega hit movie DINER. If you haven't seen it, get it. Boogie was played by Mickey Roark who said when he checked into the Holiday Inn down town there was a big murder in the hotel. A prostitute was waisted. Welcome to Baltimore-lol. I asked Boogie if the movie was true. He said well, we didn't live in Fells Point where the movie was filmed. All the Jewish people lived in Park Heights or Liberty Heights in West Baltimore and he said I never made it north of Belvedere Ave. The movie has a scene where he's hitting on a chick riding a horse out in the horse country. I said there's where I grew up - Belvedere Ave. I pissed Herb off though and told Boogie how he rented the room across the hallway from where the owners met during the expansion process and cooked crab cakes and handed them out to the owners as they walked in. There was a lot of ass kissing going on. Boogie laughed his ass off. Tom Clancy was the other prospective owner and he sent autographed copies of all his books to each owner that were delivered to their meetings. I asked Belgrad about Al Lerner sticking it to Art. He was ARt's banker and Art owed him $200M which is why he came here to get the free rent and new stadium. Al told him to take the Bmore deal to pay off his debt. Then in the end Al got the new Browns franchise in Cleveland and Art was pissed. Al was there at the Saturday Night Massacre. He was another candidate to be an owner of the new franchise here. He was supposed to make a pitch for Bmore at the meeting but never said a word. He went to the meeting, the voted and he skipped town really fast. It was like he set Art up and knew he was getting the team in Cleveland not Baltimore. Herb said that's not true. Al is a friend of mine and he wouldn't do anything like that. I said you better let Art know about that because he's writing a book about it. Herb said how do you know so much about all our business. I said from reading the news paper. Boogie laughed his ass off and said I want to party with you but Herb was pissed off. Everthing I said was in the Sun, or the two books I mentioned plus the radio talk shows. The books are FROM COLTS TO RAVENS BY JOHN STEADMAN THE GREAT FOOTBALL WARS BY DENNIS HAND. You can get them on amazon.com It was funny. We had all these owners but no team-lol. Glazer was another guy who rode into town like he was the second coming to something. Nobody had ever heard of him but he wanted to own a team. He would have called them the Cobras but Tags didn't like him either, at least not in Bmore but he was OK for Tampa. When Culverhouse died Glazer got the team there. He got it because Tags flew to Florida to stop Bmore once again. Peter Angelos offered more money for the Bucs than Glazer. The son wanted to sell for Petey for more money but the wife wanted to keep the team in Tampa and preferrred Glazer and less money. Tags introduced Glazer to the estate. The lawyers threatened the son by saying they will tie his inheritance up for years if he insisted on Angelos so he sold to Glazer. Once again Tags stopped Bmore from getting a team but can you see Petey as owner of the Os and Ravens. Glazer did win a SB with Gruden as coach but he was the most hated man in Southern Florida where he owned a lot of trailer parks and cheap apartments and kept raising the rent and throwing people out. The Miami Herald came out with a Slum Lord report on him and how much he was hated. When he got the Bucs he said the buck stops here, not Baltimore. That was a dig vs us because we didn't accept him. Hell, we already had two groups with Boogie and Clancy and Petey trying to bring a team here. He also offered more money for the Rams and Georgia considered it before backing down but can you see Petey the owner of both the Ravens and Os. He, he completely destroyed the Os that were more storied and successful than the Colts. Damn.
  10. We finally got a new team when the new Guv Glendenning did in one month what Schaeffer couldn't do over a decade. Glen ordered his new Stadium Authority Chief, John Moag, who succeeded Herb Belgrade to send letters to all NFL teams giving them 30 days to claim the money or it was coming off the table and used for schools and hospitals. The new guv knew he couldn't keep the money in place because it was raided by Mike Miller the Prick from Talbot County. The legislatures from the Eastern Shore didn't care about a team or stadium in Bmore so the guv had to act fast. Three teams jumped at the money - Cardinals, Bucs and of course the Browns. Moag wanted Art as an owner because he had a storied franchise and his TV deals made the NFL America's game. Art even came up with Monday Night Football so he got the team. When asked who the GM was going to be and the name in his first presser he said I'm the GM and we're the Browns but Cleveland sued him so he gave them the name, colors and history back to get out of court and they put a new team there. Art then let the Sun hold a name contest. He liked the Americans and so did Steadman and I. The Bombers were also a popular name but Mayor Smoked asked the NFL not to used that name after the Oaklahoma Bombing. It would have really been bad after the 911 bombing but it was still a cool name with the headlines, Baltimore bombs Wash-lol. The Sun brain washed the fans for the Ravens since Poes family is from Bmore and Poe spent some time here but 90% of Ravens fans never read the famous poem. Ravens won by a land slide.
  11. The league didn't want to expand but the Nations Bank, now Bank of America reminded them of their obligation to put a team in Charlotte where the bank was headquartered. It lent the money to the NFL to field replacement teams if there was a strike which there was and the replacement teams broke the union's back. That's why football players still get screwed not having guaranteed contracts while baseball players do. Players make a lot more than the guys in the 80s but any one can get cut or traded like Boldin and Ngata if they don't restructure. Theres' none of that in baseball. So they expanded and Tags rigged the derby vs Baltimore and Hand thinks it's because we sued the NFL once before. Charlotte got the first team of course and JAX which is rumored to be heading to LA got the second team. They even dropped out of the derby because they couldn't match Bmore's package of a public funded stadium. They're still playing in the ancient Gator Bowl now and cover thousands of empty seats every game so they won't look empty on TV. LOL So Tags travels down there and begged then to come back in the derby or he would have to give the ball to Baltimore. That's when they knew they had the second team. They couldn't believe it. Baltimore figured in JAX too because Irsay shopped the Colts there and they flew him into the stadium and landed him on mid field in a chopper. He got out and 60,000 fans went nuts cheering him. He looked like Stalin with everyone applauding him and they were afraid to stop or Stalin would shoot them. True. So Hand thinks Tag wanted revenge for Bmore trying to sue their way in and all the trouble we caused, but hey, that's how he got his job as comish. He should have been kissing our asses and guaranteeing us a team. When the teams were announced, Guv Schaeffer was on national TV crying his eyes out like a baby in what we call the Saturday Night Massacre. He was so pathetic looking. Thats when the Rams said you will be hearing from us. They wanted that Baltimore package of a new stadium, free rent and all monies from parking and concessions but Tags persuaded them to move to ST Louis but we made a bunch of' coffee mugs and stuff that said Baltimore Rams. I even have a T-shirt that says Baltimore Cardinals when Bidwell came here but they chased him away too.
  12. No one knows why Tags hated Baltimore so much and rigged the expansion derby vs us. The official version was, it was DCs territory but with Tags it was something else, something personal. He even screwed his daughter and grand sons who lived here. He still comes into town to visit them and brings a lot of NFL stuff like helmets and jerseys for their schools to auction off but he always comes at night under the cover of darkness. It's always low key so no one knows he's here. He heard about the General who was killed marching up North Point Rd during the War of 1812 to burn Bmore to the ground. He laughed at the 5th regiment whom he ran over in Bladensburgh on the way to burning DC to the ground. Well, two teenage snipers from Dundalk got him. That's why DC hate Bmore so much. The British burned their town while they never got past Dundalk trying to burn Bmore but in their defense they were outnumbered by about 5,000 British troops. By the time they got here, thousands from all over the East volunteered to help out and the trenches were so deep and long at Patterson Park the British army simply withdrew. Even Butler the Butcher of the Civil War whom Lincoln sent to camp out on Federal Hill and set up his big guns there rode in at night. He heard about the General getting sniped. All our enemies come in at night. Tags was the one who said Bmore should spend its money on a museum instead of a stadium. Some of us wanted to name the new stadium The Museum. The best reason I read for hating Bmore came from Dennis Hand in his book THE GREAT FOOTBALL WARS, must reading for all Baltimore fans. He said that Tags was the lead atty vs the old USFL when they sued the NFL over monopoly charges and Baltimore Stars were one of the teams. Hell, they were so good, they could have beaten the lower half of the NFL teams so after a few drafts we would have been a power house. They had cool unis to and Mora was the coach and would later coach the Colts in Indy. So Tags won the case for the NFL. Actually, he lost. The jury ruled in favor of the USFL but only for $1 which the judge raised to $3. The league was bankrupted. Pete made Tags his assistant who brought his assistant along, someone named Goodell. When Pete retired, Tags got the job but not w/o a fight. The old guard consisting of the Rooneys, Maras of NY and Modell wanted their man Jim Finks, an old timer from Lombardi's staff who was then GM of the Saints. There were a bunch of new owners in the league led by old time mavericks Al Davis and Bob Irsay that wanted Tags. They didn't like getting pushed around by the old guard. Finally they won and Tags got the job. He was old school too working in the office for the comish. Everyone knew him. Finks died anyway a few years later of cancer. Finks also had a link to Bmore when he was an assistant on Lombardi's staff. He was up in the press box in 65 when Unitas went down and Gary Quozzo was the backup. He noticed Gary favoring his arm and kept yelling down to Vince to hit the QB in the arm. He kept yelling hit the qb hit the qb. They did and knocked him out too and a second string RB behind Lenny Moore came in as the instant QB - Tom Matte. Several years later when Shula was fired Finks name came up for coach but Rosey remembered him yelling down to Vince to keep hitting his QB in the arm. There was no way Rosey was going to hire that prick.
  13. Thanks, man. The guys on the other board say I should write a book. All the Nests got emails from Barry Levinson's movie THE BAND THAT WOULDN'T DIE. You can still see it on HBO on DEMAND if you get Comcast. Barry wanted old timers on the show relating their old Colts memories. I was going on but had an accident and couldn' walk for 6 months. I was in the hospital when they filme it and couldn't go. Damn shame. I've been extras in the movies REPLACEMENTS, THE WIRE AND HOUSE OF CARDS but missed Barry's movie. Damn shame again. That whole Tampa thing figured into the Colts moving. It all really started the minute the Colts lost SB 3. We lost Shula, then the team gets shopped around and we lose it - one bad thing after another so the old timers like myself really cherish these days with the Ravens and a saint like Bisciotti. I'd kill anyone for him or at least Id break their legs for him-lol. Back to Tampa, after Pete said Rosey couldn't move there the NFL finally had expansion and he remembered that game and gave them a team. Hugh Culverhouse became the owner. He was the guy who set Rosey up with Irsay and Joe Thomas who knew all of them. Culverhouse was the tax atty who suggested trading the Colts to LA to save Rosey millions in capital gains taxes. Irsay was the sucker he found willing to trade the 2d largest market for the 25th largest in what's been called the worse trade since Babe Ruth-lol. Irsay always maintained the Colts were the team he wanted. That's why we never got the name back. It was so important to the family after all the shit it endured for trading the markets to begin with -lol. Since Pete knew about the Culverhouse deal and he knew Joe Thomas who built Shula's Dolphins before he got there, he gave Culverhouse the expansion team. Joe Thomas and Irsay got the Colts and Rosey got the LA market. He moved from there too or his bitch did. Thomas became the Colts GM as a finder's fee if you will and promptly shipped Unitas and all the stars out as house cleaning. I heard one story the Irsay walked up to John and said hi on the side lines and Unitas said who the hell are you. Next thing he knows he was shipped out to San Diego. Then during his first meeting with the team he introduced himself as a former Marine which was a big lie and Tom Matte turned to someone and said how did an ass like this make enough money to buy a football team. Then Matte is shipped out to San Diego then John Mackey or anyone that bitched which was just about everyone-lol. Shula told Bob Costas that he became disfavored with the owner after the SB3 loss and the next thing I know I'm in Miami and the Colts are playing exhibition games in Tampa and Irsay gets them in a trade and an expansion team is given to Tampa. It all comes back to Baltimore and SB 3. '
  14. Irsay had nothing to do with hose bumper stickers - DON'T TAMPA WITH OUR COLTS. Rosey was still here and started shopping the club around. Irsay got the idea from him. Rosey played an exhibition game in Tampa vs the Squeelers. That was the game Bubba ruined his knee. Rick Volk intercepted a Bradshaw pass as Bubba became his blocker. He ran to the side lines where the chain gang was. The guy was so petrified when he saw the 6'8 250 Bubba coming at him he froze and didn't move out of the way in time. Bubba got his knee twisted up in the chains and was never the same again. Joe Thomas let him go when he became the GM and Bubba ended up in OAK. It was there in California that he was discovered playing next to the guy with the beard who made some movies and Bubba was casted as Hightower in all the Police Academy movies and made a few others. So anyway, after that game was played in Tampa, all these bumper stickers appeared all over town saying DON'T TAMPA WITH OUR COLTS. I got a couple for my dad's car and mine. Rosey even tried to get expansion going so he could move there but Pete and the owners didn't want to expand.
  15. I actually went to the cemetry to piss on it but there were cops all over the place. It was funny but you see all these signs as soon as you drive into the park saying rewards will be given for info on vandalism. Seems like a lot of people from baltimore have done their business on that grave so now the cops guard it every time the Ravens come to town. It's the most heavily guarded grave site in the country. ILMAO. When we were there a guy was standing over the grave next to Irsay's pretending to be mourning but if you looked close enough you could see the tip of his gun sticking below his coat. There was a car on top of the hill next to his grave and another one below it. He lies on top of a hill over looking the slums of Indy, a very appropriate place. All the houses across the street are boarded up. It's a famous cemetry with former Presidents buried there. We saw all the parked cars and never got out of ours. Guys really laughed at that story on Tony's board but got pissed off when someone actually pissed on MOdell's grave here.It was OK for us to do it in Indy but not for someone from Cleve to do it here. Damn hypocrites. Drew from 1570 posted on the board and scolded us there and on the radio even mentioning our names on the air as guys who desecrated Irsay's grave. What a prick.
  16. When the father got real sick Rosey took care of him and got him to sign the will over to him. He forced his siblings out of the will and the business. He expanded their product line to denim pants and took off. He was a ruthless business man crushing all opposition. He's from Baltimore and went to City College but said he will teach Baltimore a lesson when he didn't get a new stadium and he did. He was a real prick. He even cut his son out of the will or at leas the team and now Georgia's kids have all that money plus $1b from selling the team and they still have the original SB 5 trophy.
  17. Georgia was a facinating women. I met her once. She was gorgeous, a former stripper Rosey met way back when. Rosey's kids didn't like her because of her shady reputation so when he died and left the team to her, she fired his son Steve as the GM. She was like the song says - CRAZY BITCH. The good old boys club took care of Steve as he bounced around a couple of teams front offices. When Rosey died Arty Donovan called Unitas and said mafia frog men just got Rosey. Even at 70 he was a strong swimmier and in good condition but drowned while swimming off his beach front estate. Georgia was even questioned by the cops as a possible suspect but was clean. Rosey owed a lot of money to vegas clubs in gambling debts. He betted on all his championship games. During the 58 sudden death game he was pushing Weeb NOT to go for the FG in OT. It wouldn't have been enough to beat the point spread. He was down there forcing Weeb to go for the TD and he won. All the players got envelopes under their doors as part of the bet according to Steadman's book. He only had to pay a small amount to get the Colts. Bert Bell the comish ordered that the fans of Bmore had to buy 50,000 season tickets in advance to prove they deserved a team. The Colts had left Bmore to Dallas and the city was trying to bring them back. The fans bought 50,000 tickets in less than two week and the rest is history. Rosey put $1M aside for expenses and if that ran out he would sell the team but it never ran out. He always said he made more money in football than any other business. He did the same as Irsay and swindled the family business away from his siblings and became a millionaire. They owned a family denim shirt factory in Philly.
  18. Yea, I forgot, Rams were still in LA. It's been so long I associsate it them with St Louis. They were coming here til Tags steered them away just like with NE and Cardinals. Kraft really wanted to come here but Cooke blocked him out. Kraft could do it today but he wasn't that powerful in the 80s not winning any SBs yet. Anyway, the original SB 5 trophy was last seen in Georgia's Sun Room according to Steadman's book FROM COLTS TO RAVENS. He said Rosey stole it and took it to LA with him. Irsay was furious about it and demanded that Rozelle get it back but Pete was afraid of Rosey so he ordered a replica to be made of the original - the only replica ever made of the SB trophy. It was returned to Baltimore as part of the civil suit the city filed vs Irsay. Irsay returned a lot of the old memorabilia like old trophies and stuff for bmore to drop the suit. He also promised to vote for the team if the league expanded but there was an 8-yr time frame on it that eventually lapsed. It wasn't in effect when the league voted on Charlotte and Jax as the new franchise cities. The replica of the trophy is in the Baltimore sports legend museum downtown. Georgia died and her daughter sold the team for $1B and the original SB 5 trophy is somewhere with her.
  19. It was a shame that Bert didn't play with a better team and system. He was the first qB drafted but his durability would have always been in question. He survived the 70s, but just barely. In the 80s he was in St Louis and got concussions and had to leave the game for good. He went home to Louisiana and started a lumber business that did well and today about 70 families have a nice life because of their work for Bert. He has great pride in buying and starting it.
  20. Had Colts won that ghost to post game, they would have won the SB. That was their SB but they had lousy defenses those 3 years, the only years Irsay made the POs in Baltimore. As I posted above Bert's defense gave up 77 points in 2 of 3 of those PO games so no one would have won those game yet the ghost game was close and went to 2OT. It was the longest PO game ever for a long time and still ranks as the 5th longest game in NFL history. The defense just let OAK come back and Bert didn't score too many points. Colts got a TD on a Bruce Laird 90 yard run after an interception and another TD on a return. Madden said on MNF that game had everything, offense, defense, special teams. It was one of his best wins ever. They scored on the post play because they noticed Colts CBs playing up tight and knew the could get their TE past Stan White, our LB on a mismatch and that's exactly what happened. Madden said we still had one more down afterward to kick the winning FG but wanted the TD. Scott Garceau kidded Laird at the Nest 1 scholarship banquet where he was the MC and brought Laird along with him. Scott said I just saw that game and the last thing you see is Bruce Laird trailing the ghost into the end zone. Laird said wait a minute. I had my man covered. I went over to help out and cover up when our linebacker forgot to pick Casper up. Afterwards, I asked him if Stan White was the LB who forgot and Laird laughed and said yea. I saw it recently and no where to you see White anywhere in the pic. It was a perfect over the shoulder throw by Stabler and catch by Casper who went into the HOF. His nickname was the ghost after Casper the Friendly Ghost cartoon series of the era. Most teams call it a post play as the Ravens do but when Madden put the play in he called it the ghost to post play. The Colts had some good guys on defense those years like the Sack Pack with Joe Ehrman, Cook and Dutton that put a lot of pressure on QBs but their linebackers and CBs weren't so hot. Laird was the best of them. Speaking of linebacker Joe Thomas the Colts GM those years traded one of the best LBs, SB hero Ted Hendricks away for nothing. He ended up in OAK and went into the HOF as a Raider, not a Colt. He also gave Dutton away to Dallas for nothing in return. Dutton was so thankful to be in Dallas he said I do anything for the owner and coach short of murdering someone but Marchibroda was so pissed at losing good players for nothing he demanded more say in personal matters. There was a big fight between them and the players revolted in favor of the coach. Bert called Pete Rozelle the comish and said you better get down here. There's a lot of trouble and the team is ready to walk out. The opening season game was less than a week ago. Pete said you're joking and BErt said Im not. The team will not play under these circumstances. Irsay had both Thomas and March on his famous boat in Lake Michigan called the Mighty I, ILMAO, that was the name of the boat. Irsay said both men nearly threw each other off the boat. He finally realized he might not have a game so he fired Joe Thomas and gave March what he wanted. NObody knows for sure how much influence the comish used in that but for most of the week the fans of Baltimore expected the opening game to be forfeited. Just a typical day in Baltimore sports history back in the 70s.
  21. Bruce Laird said he heard Bert's ball go zinging by his ears in practice. He practiced vs him every day.
  22. LOL - Today people take their frustrations out on the internet insulting people from the comfort of their own homes. Tony's RSR has the biggest collection of pussies on the internet that never threw a punch. As for JOe, Wilfork is his biggest admirer. He said I flattened Flacco with the hardest hit I could and he jumped up fast, then he helped me up and then went to the hurry up offense and threw a 40 yard TD. LOL Bert was a better runner. Man could he run and jump over people and then land on his arm. No wonder he got banged up so much. He was so cool coming out of the tunnel flicking the football around on his finger. ILMAO
  23. Good point about Brady rule not applying to Joe. Hell, Gino got Joe killed up the middle in DET and he had to wear a brace the rest of the year. He was knocked down in the end zone in the final Cinci game and grabbed his knee in pain. JOe played hurt just like Bert and that was a late and cheap hit on Joe. However, McPhee did step on Brady's arm when he was down and on all fours trying to get up. He was whining to the Refs the entire game and they walked away from him. All that said, today's QBs don't get hit nearly as much as they did before the Brady Rule with not nearly as many late hits after the ball is thrown. There was a play in Chicago in 1960 where Unitas was held by a Bear by his arms and Atkins yells, hold him til I get there which he did and Atkins leveled Unitas. Lenny Moore thought John was dead but was shocked when he stayed in. They put mudd up his nostrils to stop the blood out of his nose but his cut eyes bled like crazy. Then from his own 35 he drops back with blood streaming down his face and arms and he throws a bomb to Lenny who dived over two DBs for the winning score. Halas called it the greatest play he ever saw. Halas put a bounty on Unitas to stop his TD record and offered to pay $500 to any Bear to knock him out of the game. He didn't want the record broken in Chicago. Nobody got to collect the bounty.
  24. But then March got Bert killed with the plays he ran and bringing him back too soon. I saw Bert warming up on the side line and could see the pain in his face as he threw from where I was sitting. Bert was balls, pure balls. Also, Flacco has the Brady rule where no one can touch a QB while Bert was injured on a dirty play and thrown into the ground. Today, they can't even thug the receivers going down field while Bert's guys got killed. Even the players were upset with those plays. The defenses called the plays out before the snap which upset the offense and even the fans were calling the plays out and saying hey fiddle diddle, Mitchell up the middle. ILMAO As for the OT game, all the play calling was horrible on both sides. The first OT ended the same as regulation in a tie. Then OAK won it on the ghost to post play. It's currently the 5th longest game in history.
  25. Nobody would have won those POs with the defense Bert had. It gave up 77 points in 2 of the 3 PO games including the ghost to post game. Laird who practiced vs Bert and had a 90 yard TD run after intercepting the ball and they still lost that game said Bert threw so hard I heard it zinging past his ears. When asked if Bert was as good as Elway as far as pure arm strength and accuracy Lydell Mitchell at the very least as good maybe better. Bellicheat said Bert had the best arm he ever saw and his first job was with the Colts when Bert was here. He always said that and repeated it again during SB 49 week with Brady there. The young guys point to Flacco's durability which is better and his ring and POs wins but that doesn't mean he has the better arm. That's like saying Otto Graham was better than Unitas with all his rings. He won 3 NFL championships in a row plus another one plus all the ones in the old all american conference. He also threw nothing but short passes, seldom if ever going deep like John who revolutionized the game and put football on the same map as baseball, basketball and hockey. Before that it was considered minor league. He was also responsible for the AFL when all those cities want pro teams and formed the merger and then passed baseball as America's game.
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