ExtremeRavens Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago We asked readers if they think the Ravens should make any coaching changes after the team’s 1-4 start to the season. Here are the results from our online poll: Yes, fire coach John Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Zach Orr — 39% (630 votes) Yes, fire Orr — 35% (559 votes) No — 14% (227 votes) Yes, fire Harbaugh — 9% (146 votes) Other (respond in comments) — 3% (42 votes) Here’s what some fans said about Baltimore’s need for coaching changes (answers have been edited for clarity and grammar): When you take the drastic measure to overhaul your coaching staff midseason, you need a plan. These guys were thinking Super Bowl a month ago. We will have to suffer through this for 2025. 2026 will probably see some major changes, possibly Castle management infrastructure included. Ownership might be the only people we can trust at this point. — Bobby Harbaugh will see the end of his tenure, if he can’t turn this season around in some fashion, but the front office will give him the due respect to his overall resume and let him finish out the year. They won’t make that drastic a change midseason. That being said, Zach Orr’s time needs to be up in Baltimore for Harbaugh to be able to salvage this season, and Harbaugh needs to recognize that. I think most Ravens fans would agree that for any turnaround to happen, this team needs to go back to its core identity. The defense is the biggest glaring problem each game this season, something that is supposed to be at the core of the Ravens’ identity. — Matthew Shorb I think the Ravens need to clean house after the season is over, and this includes some in the front office. — Jim Rudolph The Ravens have now given up 177 points in 5 games. The 2000 Ravens gave up 165 points in 16 games. Obviously, injuries are a problem, but all teams have injuries. But Harbaugh continues to say “We have to … .” He has been saying this nonsense for years. Coach speak. He hand-picked his inexperienced defensive coordinator over many other well-qualified and experienced defensive coordinators who were available. After the debacle against the Texans, I’m afraid what will happen against the Rams. But of course our coach and fellow players follow the company line and say positive things. If the Rams blow out the Ravens, during the bye week Orr will have to be replaced and Harbaugh’s job will be on the line at the end of the year. What a tremendous disappointment this has been for the Ravens after all the optimism we all had at the beginning of the season. Someone has to be held accountable. By the way, our offensive coordinator and general manager do not get a free pass. Are you listening Mr. Bisciotti? — Robert Something is terribly wrong with the defense. Harbaugh, with his 17 years of experience has no idea what to do. Maybe his messaging is getting stale. — Charles Ignatavicius Fire Harbaugh and Orr, and if it’s possible hire Jon Gruden out of retirement. He’ll right the ship. — Russell C. Schalk Jr. I think the Ravens need to make significant changes beginning at the top with general manager Eric DeCosta. To me, it seems like the Ravens are nearly at their salary cap and nothing to show for it other than losing in the first round of playoffs. I don’t think Lamar Jackson is that good to win a Super Bowl, at least in Baltimore. I say fire Decosta — What has he done? Fire Harbaugh. It is time for a change. Trade Lamar. Time to move on. Release Ronnie Stanley. That’s way overdue. Stop signing players that are at the end of their careers. — Richard This is an organizational collapse. This is deep to be impacting the team in all aspects. This is ownership with the assistance of outside consultation. This may have been in the coaches’ hands to sort out, but it’s now well past that moment. Coaches have lost the locker room. Need an example close to home? The Warehouse is in a similar situation. — Todd Otis There has been an accumulation of bad decisions this team has made over the past several years leading to where we are today. DeCosta and management decided to invest in receivers and skill players at the expense of the big studs you have to have on the interior line. Somehow they thought that they could get by with backups and fifth- and sixth-round draft picks on the offensive line and defensive front. Every time Jackson takes a snap he is running for his life. This defense is terrible. They were terrible before the injuries. This is no longer the intimidating, feared defense of old. Then add bad play calling to the mix. I mean, fourth-and-1 in a game critical situation and Derrick Henry standing on the sideline? A lot of people are doing a poor job. I don’t think there is a quick fix. Major changes need to be made. Not sure firing the coaches will solve this problem. — WT Brown They need to relieve Orr and the OL coach of their duties and get tougher on these backups and some so-called starters on the offensive line and show the defense some film of how a good defense plays and actually HIT somebody when top starters are on the field. The Texans were! — William G. Shinham Jr. The problem with the Ravens is not a coaching issue. The problem with the Ravens is a TALENT issue. They don’t enough talent to compete with the better teams in the NFL. Lamar helps but he doesn’t block and tackle. Lamar isn’t going to have twenty carries a game. We are two or three drafts away from a competitive team. — Danard Smith I believe that Orr is over his head and was made defensive coordinator too soon in his coaching career. I also dislike the offensive play calling. While Todd Monken has helped Lamar Jackson improve as a quarterback, I think that his play calling tends to be too conservative sometimes. John Harbaugh should be given amother year to get things straightened out with new coordinators. If things don’t substantially improve next year, he should be let go. — Henry Gilligan Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Orr, shown in January, has drawn criticism from some fans during the team's 1-4 start. (Karl Merton Ferron/Staff) Harbaugh is an incredible leader of men, and his level-headedness and long-term perspective have led to a consistently high-performing team for 17 years. He also seems like a high-character guy who’s just good for the franchise. However, he is a poor X’s and O’s coach, a terrible game manager, doesn’t call plays, is overly loyal to bad coaches and is stubborn when it comes to players — how is Ben Cleveland not getting some game day snaps with how poorly the two guards are playing? Lamar saved his job once, and he needs another miracle to turn this season around or it’s probably time for him to go. Injuries don’t excuse the fourth-quarter collapse against the Bills or the drubbings we took from Detroit and KC. Orr is just plain bad … He was not ready for this role, and it’s time to call it what it is and let him go. There needs to be a shakeup during the bye week, and he is the obvious choice for change. — Jimmy Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater! That just exacerbates a difficult situation. Harbaugh needs to have a challenging heart-to-heart with Orr and give him and the rest of the offensive coaches a “here’s what’s going to happen” deadline. No need further upsetting the difficult situation with firings. — Ed Cramer Love it. No other organization deserves a disastrous outcome more than the Baltimore Ravens the worst organization in the pro sports world. Both from a professional and a moral level. — Bill The coaching staff cannot take all the blame. Yes, it could improve but it’s not their responsibility to bring in TALENT, which the team lacks on both the defensive and offensive lines. This has been in the making for several years and did not occur overnight … The coaches and injuries will take the blame but one must look a little higher up the food chain to lay the real blame. — Jon No coach can save this team. The offensive line stinks without a healthy left tackle, as the rest are average to below average, and the same is true for the defensive line. — Jerome This team was poorly constructed and that starts with the GM. Eric DeCosta has done a horrible job with this roster. However, just as we saw with the Orioles, management will go before the front office does, because they need a scapegoat. Sure, injuries have played a big part, but Orr is in over his head, and Monken is not far behind. No creativity on either side of the ball, and Harbaugh’s message has gotten stale. They didn’t adequately replace Patrick Mekari or Michael Pierce, and it shows. Time for a change. — Burt Wills The Baltimore Sun reader poll is an unscientific survey in which website users volunteer their opinions on the subject of the poll. To see results from previous sports polls, go to baltimoresun.com/sportspoll View the full article Quote
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