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I don't see this as that big of a deal, a drunk domestic dispute at a Casino is not that huge... However, definitely not the start to Ray's offseason that I was hoping for.

Yeah seriously, what a great way to blame his injury for his shitty play. Never give RB's a long-term big deal, why didn't we learn?

Very excited for this staff. Kubiak did wonders with pretty average talent in Houston outside of Johnson. We're very lucky the Lions made a mistake and hired Caldwell, I don't think we would've canned him otherwise.

Indeed the leagues call. I guess when you consider what was airing at the 4:15 slot it makes more sense. I personally like watching that 4 slot better, but I'm as an out-of-market fan, this better not screw me.

Yeah there is a lot of childishness around here recently. Disagreement that provokes discussion should be considered a good thing.

It was my impression he was complaining about fans throwing snowballs in general, as in, at each other. I saw no reports of fans throwing snowballs at the Vikings. If that is indeed the case, then he is correct to complain.

Pitta didn't look quite as fluid/smooth in his routes, but Joe already trusts him and he used his body great today.

The RB's have been bad, but I agree, as the article states, it's probably because of the injuries.

Indeed Harbs has said he wants to get him more involved, but Leach isn't the problem right now. He is still dominating his blocks and also has pretty good hands, the issue is the offensive lineman and the inability of the backs to break tackles.

Vested veteran I believe, same with Stokely.

I'm on board with everyone who says we have committed to defense and Ngata's deal, in particular, has been a killer given his downturn in performance. We are also spending on offense though! http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/cap-hit/ Yanda, Rice, Oher, and Jones all make well above position-average. I agree that it's clear the defense is the focus, but I'm just rying to squash the claim that we aren't trying at all on offense. Our RT and RG are both among our top-paid players. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but nothing I've seen from Joe shows he me can consistently produce with the talent around him being average (which it will have to be given his contract).

Rice has been the big disappointment in my eyes. Even before he hurt his hip, he was going down like a sack of potatoes while Pierce is able to create yards after contact. We're seeing first-hand why they say to not give big money to RB's in this league.

The basic point you're failing to see is that you have a limited amount of cap space. Making a big investment in Joe actually means that we have less money to support him, not that we should be spending more to 'protect our investment'.

Most important point. But I would see him changing his mind closer to the deadline. I agree with others who state that he'd go to KC first though. To make it even harder, we'd have to pull the same move we did with the Jags and convert his salary to a bonus, not sure if Atlanta would do that unless we actually provided some decent compensation.

I am the first to say that Joe had an unreal post-season run and some of the other QB's who are paid on his level have not had his post-season success. I also agree that post-season success is more important than regular season numbers. My point, that no one has addressed, is that NOW that Flacco is paid at this level, he won't ever again be surrounded by the same level of talent he previously was. As you yourself say, he needs a team around him. In the end, I don't understand why he was paid like Brady when he can't produce like Brady. I don't blame Joe for taking the money but he didn't deserve what he got. End of story. To be clear, I am not blaming this lackluster season on Joe. The offensive line, running backs, and WR's have all been dismal. But again, going forward Joe will never have superb talent if he chooses to take 20% of our salary cap.

I have the utmost faith in Oz, but I believe Joe is simply an above-average Quarterback and not worth the money he got. So far, nothing Joe has done has earned his contract except for last years playoffs. I would love to be wrong on this, but the 'arguments' posed against me thus far have been little more than homer rants.

One game sample size for the win. What a terrible argument. I apologize for being mistaken on the numbers exactly, but my point still exists. Indeed Joe is not yet killing our cap, but if he can't win with what's around him now, how will he win with even less around him in the coming years?

Joe's 'only' making 13 mil this year, with 20+ coming soon, but he took enough money that he shouldn't have to have help around him to succeed. See Brady, end of story.

The player he wants to replace Gradkowski is also white.

Thank you for actually being logical. We gain nothing by cutting him. As we saw last year and have seen today with his quotes, he plays better when he is the backup or actually has competition. He is staying.

If there is no taker in a trade they will keep him for depth this season. Absolutely 0 chance he gets cut.

Unreal work by Oz & Co on this one.

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/1569/rice-explains-what-really-needs-to-change Great perspective from Rice on this trade.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefterUpdate: Ravens are sending multiple third-day draft picks to Jacksonville in exchange for OT Eugene Monroe. Offensive line play has been horrendous but, in my plain sight opinion, I wasn't putting that all on McKinnie frankly. Can't really hate on 4th round+ compensation though. Brian McFarland @RavensSalaryCapTrade 4 Monroe sort of explains quick hook 4 Thompson. His release saved $367K & put Ravens $1.580M under Cap. Will need more moves 4 Monroe They must be cutting McKinnie... or perhaps getting a few people to do some restructuring. http://tracking.si.com/2013/10/01/jaguars-agree-to-trade-eugene-monroe-to-ravens/ https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/05/10/two-who-missed-the-list-jennings-and-monroe/ UPDATE Re: McKinnie Will be interesting to see what they can do if not McKinnie. Perhaps extend Monroe and limit his cap hit this year? Brian McFarland @RavensSalaryCapBryant McKinnie's base salary is now fully guaranteed, so they probably won't release him since there's no Cap relief . Just a back-up now

IMO Doss always lacked confidence in his own ability to succeed at the NFL level, so I really hope that PR was the boost he needed. We'll see if it bears out.