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But you do put yourself in position to win.

Actually it was quite different. SS just spikes the ball when he stands up. Torrey walked around the DB and spiked it right next to him and was talking shit.

We have these stupid rules in the NFL because of Peyton's bitching and whining.

I am to the point that I think the Ravens are better off letting torrey walk. I didn't like how he went hot head at the goal line.

I have seen it. Torrey didn't play it well but Joe should have put it on his left shoulder.

Ed burned that bridge.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/15/giants-hire-steve-spagnuolo-as-defensive-coordinator/ It is done.

A good point was brought up. No Kubes be careful signing Justin.

That offer might be HC. It is an offer they don't usually turn down. He lived there for 20 yrs and that is not something Steve can offer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gNE1Vju1ftM

I was thinking the same thing. Is that tampering?

They are going down to Fla and Steves house next week. Also the coaching staff does have the PB to coach.

Again chicken salad argument. I think it was with Ted.

I don't think Chi would want him. they need someone to get that D fixed. Where do you get the DT being a headcase? I think the Ravens would love him. He would really make the Offense go. He made Tebow look not imbecilic. Their window padded the day they signed Peyton.

That is the week before the draft I think.

On 98 Rock they said probably next week.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/13/steve-spagnuolo-to-interview-for-his-old-giants-job-tomorrow/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/13/ravens-will-coach-one-of-the-pro-bowl-teams/ This is interesting.

http://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/ This is the source for the contract numbers. I didn't know that they would orient like they did.

Calvin Johnson Lions $113,450,000 $16,207,143 $48,750,000 $6,964,286 43.0% 2020 UFA Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals $113,000,000 $16,142,857 $27,000,000 $3,857,143 23.9% 2019 UFA Percy Harvin Jets $64,245,000 $12,849,000 $14,500,000 $2,900,000 22.6% 2019 UFA Mike Wallace Dolphins $60,000,000 $12,000,000 $27,000,000 $5,400,000 45.0% 2018 UFA Dwayne Bowe Chiefs $56,000,000 $11,200,000 $20,000,000 $4,000,000 35.7% 2018 UFA Vincent Jackson Buccaneers $55,555,555 $11,111,111 $26,000,000 $5,200,000 46.8% 2017 UFA Brandon Marshall Bears $30,000,000 $10,000,000 $14,800,000 $4,933,333 49.3% 2018 UFA Jordy Nelson Packers $39,050,000 $9,762,500 $11,500,000 $2,875,000 29.4% 2019 UFA Andre Johnson Texans $67,800,000 $9,685,714 $20,500,000 $2,928,571 30.2% 2017 UFA Greg Jennings Vikings $45,000,000 $9,000,000 $17,800,000 $3,560,000 39.6% 2018 UFA Victor Cruz Giants $43,000,000 $8,600,000 $15,629,000 $3,125,800 36.3% 2019 UFA Pierre Garcon Redskins $42,500,000 $8,500,000 $13,100,000 $2,620,000 30.8% 2017 UFA Antonio Brown Steelers $41,960,000 $8,392,000 $8,500,000 $1,700,000 20.3% 2018 UFA DeSean Jackson Redskins $24,000,000 $8,000,000 $16,000,000 $5,333,333 66.7% 2017 Void Marques Colston Saints $36,300,000 $7,260,000 $17,700,000 $3,540,000 48.8% 2017 UFA Steve Johnson 49ers $36,250,000 $7,250,000 $11,000,000 $2,200,000 30.3% 2017 UFA Eric Decker Jets $36,250,000 $7,250,000 $15,000,000 $3,000,000 41.4% 2019 UFA Golden Tate Lions $31,000,000 $6,200,000 $10,500,000 $3,000,000 41.4% 2019 UFA Brian Hartline Dolphins $30,775,000 $6,155,000 $12,500,000 $2,500,000 40.6% 2018 UFA Roddy White Falcons $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $7,550,000 $2,516,667 41.9% 2018 UFA Wes Welker Broncos $12,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $3,000,000 50.0% 2015 UFA Anquan Boldin 49ers $12,000,000 $6,000,000 $5,500,000 $2,750,000 45.8% 2016 UFA Reggie Wayne Colts $17,500,000 $5,833,333 $7,500,000 $2,500,000 42.9% 2015 UFA Danny Amendola Patriots $28,500,000 $5,700,000 $8,000,000 $1,600,000 28.1% 2018 UFA Jeremy Maclin Eagles $5,500,000 $5,500,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 63.6% 2015 UFA I would say DT surpasses Johnson. I think torrey is in the Garcon to Jennings range. As you can see that is a considerably large amount of money dividing the two.

He would be a lot more. DT is a top 3 WR. He will demand a great deal of money. Torrey maybe top 25. Not as much. His value is more depending on the system a team runs.

Yes on Thomas. The one thing is the Ravens I think will be a little shallow on the cap space. Can they pull a Thomas off?

I am agreeing with the overall sentiment but these guys always grab the brass ring even in bad situations. I thought Marvin going to Cincy was foolish. He has raised them but may never get over the top. I knew Gruden in DC was really stupid. Rex in NY was not going to work. Woody doesn't know what he is doing up there.

If you wanted the stadium to be a mega church.