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It is very hard for a righty to roll to the left and throw. He has to set if he does it.

You did know what he was. You had his whole career of being up and down. You had yrs when he should have gotten away from Rookie istakes and he still made them. People decided to pay him because of 4 games. You are what you are. A guy can change but they tend to revert to what they innately are.

Whne was it TB had a QB with talent? That is why Joe should have thrown with them. He had a new offense to learn. I don't know that Wilson has thrown with his guys. Wilson is smart enough to go down early. He never gets hit hard. What intangibles? The windup for the throw that brought the ball down to his knee?

Intangibles are things that are not quantifiable. One for Joe was not practicing with his WR's when learning a new offense. Great QB's do that.

It is more than stats. It is control. That offense starts right now with Lynch. Wilson has so many more intangibles on Joe it is crazy.

He has had more consistent success than Joe has. He basically always makes the smart play. Dumb Joe is a pretty consistent member of the Ravens.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/20/nba-nails-it-on-domestic-violence-ruling-while-nfl-struggles/ Add to this the Sterling case and the move to be at ease with sports book Adam Silver has really impressed me in a short time span.

I would be willing to pay. I just would do it for a quality QB. I would pay Wilson right now.

I just can't pay a record contract on a really small sample set. I would have said just that after the trade was executed.

Because that is a ridiculous argument that the Ravens had no control over.

But I go back to not signing him to the deal in the first place. Once you are in you have to make due with what exists.

I would say Cutler is more expendable but his contract I think is more onerous.

I agree with that. I was all over the D last yr.

It depends on the win. I don't throw all his loses in people faces saying he did that like I have his wins thrown in my face. There are games where he has done his part and people like Cam didn't do their part. I have not laid those loses at his feet. But in games where he has done next to nothing and they win anywasy it is looked at as a quality start.

He has won a lot of games despite Joe.

If at the end of 2015 if Joe keeps playing up and down ball I think they should cut him. That is how you cut your losses.

Tate would bitch about his production here.

No. Getting a paid vacation is not punishment. What AP got is what cops get all the time and they continue their bad conduct. Also he was paid to stay away until his case was adjudicated. AP has now been punished.

Well that is a different subject that is getting really interesting really fast.

No if they redo his contract it will be throwing good money after bad. Cut your losses and move on unless he is willing to take a dramatic paycut which I highly doubt he would.

Raise your hand if you wanted him here in FA. I can go look for those posts.

There hasn't been a very good OL here in many yrs. They have had problems Joes whole career.

Yep Good money after bad.

He and several other I have said should not be here.

Actually it doesn't. He has now gotten a 6 game suspension under the new rules they have come up with. AP was paid the whole time this season.