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He gets stats but he gets his QB killed.

Not here but when I said I hoped a cop would be shot and I could shit on his grave. I remember quite well.

Like a said it looks like rebuild.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/01/myron-rolle-signs-with-the-steelers/ That is rather unfortunate.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/02/london-tickets-were-supposed-to-go-on-sale-but-didnt/ Rams have the "home" game in London.

Disassembled what?

Pags should be in a solid spot. He gets the #1 pick and the best QB since Elway. With a rookie and what looks like something of a rebuilding I don't see him jump to 12 games or something and sets expectations to high.

100% accurate. I am guessing you are saying Ray and Reed. I go back to letting guys who have since left go further back. I would not have inked Heap a 2nd time. He should have been traded. I said the same of Suggs but he is proving me wrong. They just need to find another person to maximize his production. If the moves had been made back then you would have guys that are in their prime. Oh. You know better than anyone that I will go thermo nuke when it gets to it.

Don't mention Martz. If you want Joe to stay on his feet then he is not your guy.

I was trying to find the article but can't. I do remember he put his staff together in 2008.

I expect him to be gone far before the Ravens draft.

I have for yrs said they should get young. I do not believe in keeping heros because they are heros. I have said for a long time to build via the draft. I do not see that as being a bad thing. Pleese tell me how it is.

Audie Cole, ILB, North Carolina State Height: 6-4. Weight: 248. Projected 40 Time: 4.65. Arm: 32 1/4. Hand: 10. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 12/26/11: Cole has put together a solid senior season. In 2011, he has recorded 98 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks, four forced fumbles and four passes broken up. Cole can be a tough defender in the tackle box with good instincts. In the spring of 2011, North Carolina State moved him to the middle linebacker spot. In 2010, for the second straight year, Cole led the team in tackles. He recorded 97 tackles with 10.5 tackles for a loss as an outside linebacker. As a sophomore, Cole led the team in tackles with 85. He needs to get bigger for the NFL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3j41bQfk8 I like how fast he moves around but he doesn't deal with blockers from the line well. Kevin Reddick*, ILB, North Carolina Height: 6-3. Weight: 240. Projected 40 Time: 4.67. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 12/26/11: Reddick has been solid for North Carolina this season, collecting 67 tackles with six tackles for a loss, one sack and four passes broken up. He has been overshadowed by Zach Brown but is a quality prospect. Reddick could standout more if he returns for his senior year and continues to improve.

Vontaze Burfict*, ILB, Arizona State Height: 6-3. Weight: 250. Projected 40 Time: 4.63. Projected Round (2012): 1. 12/26/11: Burfict had a disappointing season this year. The junior is still developing, but looks like he could be a special player in the NFL. Burfict makes big plays, but seems to hold back some of the aggressiveness that made him such a presence in his first two seasons. In 2011, he had 69 tackles with seven tackles for a loss, five sacks, three passes broken up and an interception. Burfict's best game this season came against USC when he had five tackles and a tackle for a loss. He made a game-changing play by intercepting Trojans quarterback Matt Barkley in the red zone and returning the ball to just past midfield. Including his outing against USC, Burfict did not have a game all season where he recorded double-digit tackles. Too often, he was quiet and did not make an impact in the ground game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7achvXsy3Q Can't find anything other than a highlight vid. Dont'a Hightower*, ILB, Alabama Height: 6-4. Weight: 260. Projected 40 Time: 4.85. Projected Round (2011): 1. 12/26/11: Hightower has had a good season for Alabama. He has been a tough, in-the-box defender and has increased his splash plays. Hightower has shown the ability to be a dangerous blitzer as well. He looks much faster than he did in 2010 when he was in his first season back from knee surgery. Hightower has 81 tackles with 9.5 tackles for a loss, three sacks, one interception and three passes batted away this season. He had a dominant game against Tennessee and played well versus LSU. Against Georgia Southern, Hightower blocked a field goal and it looked like he was spiking a volleyball. Hightower is a real presence in the tackle box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJ3o1heM5E Same problem. I do like how he diagnosis plays.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012C.php Peter Konz*, C, Wisconsin Height: 6-5. Weight: 315. Projected 40 Time: 5.58. Projected Round (2012): 1. 1/9/12: The junior Konz has collected a stack of dominant tapes for NFL evaluators this season. He has played elite players like Jerel Worthy and Jared Crick very well. The Badgers have had a fabulous running offense, and Konz is an excellent run blocker. He seals holes well, gets to the second level, and puts defenders on the ground regularly. Konz has done a fabulous job in pass protection for quarterback Russell Wilson. Not many centers enter the draft early. That goes for Wisconsin offensive linemen as well, so it would be somewhat surprising if he enters the 2012 draft. Late in the season, Konz dislocated his ankle and that caused him to sit out some games. He returned and played very well in the Rose Bowl against Oregon. Ben Jones, C, Georgia Height: 6-3. Weight: 304. Projected 40 Time: 5.17. Arm: 32 1/4. Hand: 9 5/8. Projected Round (2012): 2-3. 1/9/12: To start the season, Jones had a rough performance against Boise State and really struggled with defensive tackle Billy Winn. Jones (6-3, 316) allowed a sack and way too much pressure up the middle of the defense. After that game, he played really well for most of the year. Jones was a solid run blocker and improved his pass protection. He did not play well against LSU and Michigan State. Jones is a bigger center who would be a fit in a power run scheme, and he will need to get better as a pass rusher. Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State Height: 6-4. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.08. Arm: 31. Hand: 9 5/8. Projected Round (2012): 2-3. 1/9/12: Brewster had some late season struggles which have sent his stock down. He played poorly against Penn State and had problems snapping the ball due to being so preoccupied with blocking Devon Still. For some strange reason, his snaps trailed off as the season went on. In his bowl game versus Florida, Brewster did not play all that well. Still, the senior is an intelligent technician who typically wins his block. He is well-rounded as a run blocker and pass blocker. Early in the season, Brewster had excellent games against Miami defensive tackle Marcus Forston, and Nebraska defensive tackles Jared Crick and Baker Steinkuhler. Brewster is athletic and mobile. The knock on him is his smaller size and lack of power as a run blocker. In the NFL, Brewster would excel in a passing-led offense or a zone-blocking run scheme. Philip Blake, C, Baylor Height: 6-2. Weight: 312. Projected 40 Time: 5.58. Arm: 31 7/8. Hand: 9 3/4. Projected Round (2012): 2-3. 1/9/12: Throughout 2011, Blake was an excellent pass protector for Robert Griffin III, and opened up holes in the ground game for running back Terrance Ganaway. Blake is a good athlete for his size. He has the strength to push tackles aside and surprising quickness to hit blocks on linebackers. For the past two years, Blake has been the starter at center, having begun his collegiate career at tackle. To close out 2011, he had a lot of success going against Washington Huskies defensive tackle Alameda Ta'amu in the Alamo Bowl. The Baylor Bears were able to have a massive game on the ground to the tune of 482 yards. In the NFL, Blake would probably fit best in a power man blocking scheme. William Vlachos, C, Alabama Height: 6-0. Weight: 306. Projected 40 Time: 5.13. Arm: 30. Hand: 9 1/8. Projected Round (2012): 2-3. 12/5/11: Vlachos has had an overall strong season. The senior has led a powerful interior running game for Alabama, but he struggled against LSU and its speedy interior linemen. However, Vlachos looks like a solid pick who will be able to play quickly in the NFL. David Molk, C, Michigan Height: 6-2. Weight: 286. Projected 40 Time: 4.99. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 1/9/12: Molk was an excellent college player, and he was the 2011 Remington Trophy recipient. Molk is a fast and mobile blocker who did a good job of opening up holes and protecting quarterback Denard Robinson. Molk is very undersized, and he could be lighter than his listed measurements. At the next level, Molk will have to be in a zone-blocking scheme to survive. He doesn't have size to fit in a power man blocking scheme, so that limits him to teams that are zone based, and not all of them need a center. If Molk was bigger and stronger to be an option for other schemes, he would be a definite second-day pick. Quentin Saulsberry, C, Mississippi State Height: 6-2. Weight: 300. Projected 40 Time: 5.10. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 1/9/12: Saulsberry was an honorable All-SEC mention for his 2011 season at center. He did a good job of blocking for running back Vick Ballard. Saulsberry is a versatile player who has logged time at four of the five offensive line positions. He was the starter at right guard in 2010 and left guard in 2009. As a freshman, he was the starter at right tackle. In the NFL, Saulsberry could stay at center at his current weight. If the senior moves to guard, he will need to add some more bulk and power to his game. At the very least, Saulsberry should be a versatile backup for game days. Ben Habern, C, Oklahoma Height: 6-2. Weight: 291. Projected 40 Time: 5.28. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 1/9/12: Habern started the season strong with three good games for the Sooners. He broke his arm against Missouri and missed the next four games. Habern had some inconsistencies later and that hurt his stock some this year. Habern looks like a better pass protector than run blocker. Garth Gerhart, C/G, Arizona State Height: 6-1. Weight: 301. Projected 40 Time: 5.25. Arm: 32 7/8. Hand: 9 5/8. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 1/9/12: Gerhart played well for Arizona State this season and improved his stock significantly. He is quick and athletic. That allows him to be effective when pulling. Gerhart also isn't afraid to get physical and fights through the whistle. He is a better run blocker than pass blocker. Gerhart needs to improve his awareness and get his head on swivel in pass protection. He struggled against Boise State and defensive tackle Billy Winn. Grant Garner, C, Oklahoma State Height: 6-3. Weight: 292. Projected 40 Time: 5.19. Projected Round (2012): 4-5. 1/9/12: Garner played well this season. He did well in run blocking, but was simply superb at keeping the pocket clean for quarterback Brandon Weeden. Garner played well against Stanford to conclude his career.

No need to go around with your retarded understanding of football. So did they make you jump in the bay for your own cause on Sat? I have not started calling names like a 4 yo. But maybe I should start. I seem to get them. The only difference is no holds bared with me. Tool and moron are so trite. Torrey was a dropaholic at UMD and to start here. These things can be worked on. There have been many players who droped the ball all the time and worked past it.

So if Manning can make others better with osmosis why is Painter not good?

OK. So many have not been good there.

I totally agree.

Carr, Chris - They need and should have moved on. Foxworth, Domonique - Bad signing and they will move on. Gurode, Andre - What purpose did he serve. He is not an OG and Birk never should have been signed. Leach, Vonta - The way they use the run game I don't see his purpose. Should have gone rookie for the spot. Lewis, Ray - They should have traded him yrs ago. He will never have another SB win in Bmore. He has been wasted. McKinnie, Bryant - This guy is no longer a difference maker. Pollard, Bernard - Not good in coverage. Redding, Cory - OK but you can get his production from the draft. Reed, Ed - Should have been traded yrs ago. Greatest FS ever but I don't think he has been worth the money. Williams, Ricky - They should have kept this in house. Waste of money. Wilson, Kris - Please teh #3 TE neebs to have 8 yrs in. I will stop being an arragant ass when other stop being arragant asses when I bring a simple point.

Totally agree. That is why I think the Caldwell hire is a waste.

Williams was a stud on ST's. He caused the fumble in the NE game I think. He just didn't have a spot on O this yr. He was solid.

Indy was built with the concept of having Peyton there. There D was built to have a lead and when they don't they are about useless. Their OL has always has Manning to make them better. He threads a needle for most WR's. The only rec's they have that would make other teams are Clark and Wayne.

No they didn't retool. They did a little this past yr but they should have gone farther and built picks.

I said 4 yrs ago that they needed to retool and get younger. They have held on and held on every yr and kicked the can down the road with the cap and space. Sorta like congress and SS. Now the bill is coming due. The hard calls get harder and you think you are so close but you are really falling backwards away from the goal.