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Eh, pay wall, can't read it. I hope they talked about his inability to throw the long ball accurately. Sure, 20 yards and in he seems to be fine, but deeper throws he is way off target most times. He doesn't seem to have developed the touch pass to drop it in a bucket over a backer in front of the safety without it being high... time will tell

Not sure what planet I'm on, but I just realized that it is a night game, oy, dvr another gane. Least I get to skip all of the commercials

Boss will miss this game, thankfully, sprained foot, but they will still have to deal with Mack.

Yes, another long trip, to the left coast this time. If you have followed the NFL for a while, you know that as a franchise, no matter the coach or quarterback, more times than not, the Chargers find more creative ways to lose football games. This year's version is no different. So, who are they? What are they good at besides losing? Offensively, they rank 11th in the league in total offense, averaging. 354 yards per game, 248 yards via the air, 105 on the ground, 25 pts per game. Herbert, while a pocket passer, is completing. 66% of his passes, with 19 tds and 5 picks, he has been sacked 22 times. He can avoid sacks quite nimbly, and runs well with 186 yards rushing, with 3 tds and 15 first downs. His favorite targets are big guys who run well and are precise route runners in Mike Williams & Keenan Allen, they also use Ekler out of the backfield quite often. Defensively, they are holding opponents to an average of 23 ots per game, 35% on 3rd downs, 291 yards per game through the air, with 34 sacks, 102 yards per game on the ground with 12 tds. This is a game the Ravens really need to win, and should win easily. The last time these two teams met in 2021, in Bmore, it was a whooping, with the Ravens winning 34-6. Should we expect the same? The defense needs to prove it can hold up for 4 quarters, not give up multiple touchdowns in the 4th. The offense needs to prove it can be taken on the road and produce for 4 quarters, not turn the ball over in the 4fh quarter. Let your weak opponent hang around they will find ways to win, even this desperate Chargers team who saw their game last Sunday slip through their fingers. Everyone over there is on the hot seat, take it to them and dont spare the rod.

From Espn not that Harbs has been right about injuries... he thinks Andrews could be back "My understanding is in talking with our trainer and the doctors is that it wasn't as bad as initially feared right after the game," Harbaugh said. "It's a little cleaner than they thought based on the MRI." Harbaugh said Andrews is currently with Dr. Robert Anderson in Charlotte, North Carolina, and the team will know more when he returns later in the week

Goose was playing to the crowd, as he often did. He was not truly trying to hurt Gannon, he just landed on him because he could nothing else.

Big difference between a pass rusher sacking a qb at full speed and having to try to pull a 350 body away than a 245 LB just needing to move his legs to the side. Nice try Ole buddy

Hopefully in this short bye week not only is the defense getting some rest, but also studying how to keep the edge. Teams have been killing them running on the edge, usually to the defense's left. Fix that, fix staying in your rush lane against mobile quarterbacks, and while this team is leading the league in sacks, if there was a Stat for missed sacks, they might be leading there as well. So relearn how to sack a qb, how to wrap up

The tackle that seals his angry, intent to injure is the one on Obj. To use a term from an idiot ref who is now retired, he tackles with malice in his heart. He didn't just tackle Obj, he drove him to the ground and made sure his body was fully on top of Obj. There are a number of ways to tackle someone, most are lower in % of injury risk. The way he tackles, 90% risk of injury.

I'm no doctor, though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, but the hit Clowney put on Burrow did not cause a tear in Burrow's wrist ligament UNLESS, it was already strained. Which, would explain the wrist splint. The NFL is investigating, a fine, maybe a pick as well if they "find" something. Yeah, qbs dropping, but not from illegal hits, not from excessive hits either. It is just one of those years.

A cracked fib and damage to the ligament as part of Mark's injury, ouch https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/mark-andrews-injury-update-ravens-te-suffered-cracked-fibula-damage-to-ankle-ligament-per-report/

Burrow out for season, torn ligament in wrist, per Espn

A nice read for the slight layoff until the next game https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/ravens/2023/11/16/baltimore-ravens-defense-stats-mike-macdonald/71583795007/ OWINGS MILLS, Md. – The comparisons to the Baltimore Ravens’ 2000 defense, one of the greatest in league history, were premature. But the 2023 version of Baltimore’s defense, through the first 10 games, is worthy of its own praise. Having a second season in defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald’s system has been an obvious – yet important – difference, players say. He’s got a somewhat complicated scheme," safety Kyle Hamilton told USA TODAY Sports. "But he’s done a great job drilling it down and making it simple for us." Hamilton, himself more accustomed as a second-year player, was the poster player of the Ravens’ transition from longtime defensive coordinator Don "Wink" Martindale – now with the New York Giants – to Macdonald, who was a first-time NFL coordinator in 2022. In Week 2 of that season, it was Hamilton being beat deep by the Miami Dolphins that was the visual representation of their late-game collapse. Fast forward to Week 10 of this season against the Cleveland Browns, and it was Hamilton who crept up to the line of scrimmage, blitzed and tipped a Deshaun Watson pass straight up into the air to come down with it and score on the second play of the game. NFL STATS CENTRAL: The latest NFL scores, schedules, odds, stats and more. Having defenders know how to do multiple things and play in different spots – especially for a 6-foot-4 safety like Hamilton – are all parts of Macdonald’s philosophy. I think it always keeps the offense on their toes, and I think allows us to make plays in different areas and show our versatility," Hamilton said. Players have to keep up with the wrinkles Macdonald and his staff devise each week, edge rusher Odafe Oweh said. "I also think guys are just getting more comfortable with the scheme and the defense," Oweh said. "Mike had all this stuff last year, too. Guys are just learning plays and being more skillful in certain positions. In 2023, the Ravens enter a “Thursday Night Football” matchup with the Cincinnati Bengals allowing the fewest yards per play (4.2) of any team. Despite giving up 27 points – the offense was responsible for a pick-six that was followed by a missed extra point – in a 33-31 loss to the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, Baltimore still has the top scoring defense in the NFL (15.7 points per game). The unit is third in sack rate (9.51%) with a league-best 39, and the 17.3 first downs the group allows per contest also ranks third. Macdonald's defense found its groove in the second half of 2022. After a Week 9 trade with the Chicago Bears for inside linebacker Roquan Smith, the Ravens allowed 14.9 points per game, the second-best mark in the league. Baltimore finished third in rushing defense (92.1 yards per game). During the offseason, Macdonald said the defensive coaches talked about “having a clear vision of what we wanted to get to.” So, it crystallized a little bit in how we were coaching it and our methods and how to do it," Macdonald said. "I think it was clear, and the staff has been awesome on how we’ve worked together on how we want to do it and how you go about executing it. So, the logistics of everything is just a lot smoother the second time around." Of course, players need to buy into what the coaches are teaching. Thirteen players have registered sacks – an overrated metric in Macdonald’s mind, because there are more accurate ways to calculate the effectiveness of a pass rush. Veterans Kyle Van Noy (16 quarterback pressures) and Jadeveon Clowney (five sacks) have contributed despite not being with the team for most of the offseason. Safety Geno Stone, not a starter at the outset of the season, leads the league in interceptions with six.

Yeah, Likley is the obvious, but as papa said, Lamar rarely throws to him any more, and yes he has been wide open numerous times, since his big drop earlier in the season, "spoiling" a potential comeback. They drafted Kolar high, too high, (remember Andrews was nof their first choice either), so maybe they can start using him more. Im a little more concerned with Obj being injured, he drew anlot of coverage, created penalties, and appears to be, pre injury, back to his youthful self.

Yes, you tackle his mid section, both arms wrapped around him, then move, naturaly, your legs to the outside of the runner. It is pretty easy if taught and learned properly. Learned it my self in pee wee football..

I agree, the proper way to make that tackle is to slide your legs out, away from the defender. Clearly he cant make that tackle properly and should not be allowed to do so in the future

Hopefully Obj is going to be fine. That shoulder injury can be tricky. The defender came from behind and drove him in to the ground. But 9 days rest then back at it. That bye is going to be needed... Maybe Andrews can visit with Brock Bowers, UGA tightend, similar injury, was only out for a few games... surely I jest...

Just finished, almost, watching the game. So glad to see that they won. It was a short week game, so nuts happen. I agree, the worst, perhaps, officiated game I've seen in a while. The Ravens got lucky on that, without the bad officials the end of the half touchdown to Bateman does not happen. Sadly, the holding call on OBj wad also bogus, taking a Flowers touchdown off the board. This is where luck came in again, the tipped pass right to Algholar who caught and ran for 6. Luck came calling again when a couple of Lamar over throws that should have been picked, were dropped. I don't understand the first half play calling, all of those shots deep down field that were no where near completed, save one, that was tipped away. Maybe they wanted get him game practice in throwing them? Second half, redzone, Lamar on a gimpy ankle they call qb runs? They pull Gus out? Nice that they once again scored a touchdown on their opening drive, real nice. Nice that Obj got over 100, real nice. Not nice, the defense, missed tackles. Luck came calling again, Burrow hurt, not sure the Ravens win if Burrow plays the entire game. Sucks about Andrews, done for the year. Queen also hurt his anckle, as did Lamar. Hey, weird things happen on short weeks, in short week games. So glad the Ravens won despite it being a short week

2 $100+ million quarterbacks, some one has to shine to night, let's hope Lamar is the one

Hendrickson is nursing a hyperextended knee. No doubt a cortisone regime is helping him play tonight. Run, run at him, make him move, make him use his strength up trying to stop the run.

Tee Higgins (hamstring), Sam Hubbard (ankle), and Andrei Iosivas (knee) have been ruled out after not practicing this week. That means the Bengals will rely heavily on Trenton Irwin and Tyler Boyd to step up next to Ja’Marr Chase at wide receiver. Hendricks is playing, shucks, he always seems to kill us. Stanley and Simpson are out, Humphries is doubtful for the good guys...

Lamar 7-1 against the Bengals, over 70 yards rushing per game too boot. But it is a Night game, a short week game oy..mm Good news, that tan ravens sideline hood is down to $69, wonder if I can get it for $49 by the time Christmas rolls around

Well they did oldno, Watson is done for the year, needs shoulder surgery. A broken bone in his shoulder from the hit along the sidelines. Plus a high ankle sprain. Yet some how he managed to finish the game going 14 for 14 on passes and some big runs.. hmmm

I disagree, I give no credence to how good any team is based on Thursday night games. It's heavy water, not clear water, they may as well be running through the jungle. (Yes, I have CCR playing in my head)

Well, while I do agree, Denver loses that game if not for the 4 turnovers. Josh seems to have the same problem Lamar does, turnovers in big games. With the injuries to the line, and a short week, do expect a heavy dose of the run game, so long as it is close & or the Ravens have a big lead