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Try using the Google for all pro players during Tomlin's time. Pretty good list, post Ben too boot, yet dragging them? But only through the regular seasons, right?
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Maybe you should review each of his playoff loses, I would bet my aunt fanny, that those same mistakes are made in each loss
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You are assuming that Lamar doesn't fumble or throw an int against Buffal or Flowers doesnt fumble at the goal line against Kc. Or Andrews catches those easy passes that either extend a key drive or ties the score as the game clock expires. Or that Lee Evans doesn't drop the easy game winning touchdown against the Pats in the last few seconds of the AFC championship game in 2011 or in the same game, Cundif doesn't miss the easy, short, game tying field goal. These are easy plays to make that have nothing to do with the coach but all kept a very good team from going to 3 other Super Bowls, likely winning at least 1 maybe 2 more. All of that with Harbs and would have happened with Tomlin. Again, he won nothing after his 2nd Super Bowl appearance, except the the division title, 7 straight playoff loses, 7
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I get it papa, but you are being a bit of a double standard here. These two coaches, who both will likely be in the Hall of Fame one day, are interchangeable. They both took over teams with strong leaders in position and guided them, inspired them, to win Super Bowls. Neither of them got close after their respective leaders retired or were released, the Ravens dis get closer than the Steelers. Same coach, one you would take over the other because you apply a rule to one and not the the one you would chose.
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I get your trepidation, we don't know how ir what these three are looking for in a coach. Only Ozzie has really been through this and he did pretty well. The Biscuit was in on the Billick firing Harbs hiring as well. Yes, the wrong coach could set this team back 5 years or more, same as drafting the wrong quarterback or signing the wrong one for that matter. But one thing this team has a core talent, it's not as if this team was horrible like says the Raiders or Browns for years and it is here we go again. This team is only now 1 season removed from a true Super Bowl contender. There are a few coaches out there who appear to be great choices in Minter, Flores and the like. Yes, most of us chose to have "faith", "trust" pick your word, in the organization to make the right choice, they did with Billick and Harbs and got 2 Super Bowls, many great games, and seasons. Unlike the Browns, Raiders, Jets, and their ilk.
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So what draft position will the Ravens be in? 14th pick
tsylvester replied to tsylvester's topic in Baltimore Ravens
Donte Moore returning to Oregon, smart choice, he is not NFL ready. Neither is the Bama kid, why he is going pro is puzzling. It cant be the money, what with the NIL money now. Granted, of all years to go pro from the qb position, this will be it, only 1 guy worthy of a 1st round pick -
The Biscuit said it is a team/family desicion, they will all have a say in who is hired, him included who will have the final say. Selective hearing papa Ole pal
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Purdy was the last pick, there have been several qbs taken after the 1st or late in the 1st, they could have drafted. Do you know the pecking order of the Steelers? Did he not have any say in when and who to draft? With his record, at the time? You go to 2 Super Bowls, winning one, plus all those division titles, just when do they shut down and draft a qb early? So Tomlin was slow on when to pull the trigger, they had a shot at Lamar and passed. Seems to me, as I said, he is Harbs, Harbs is him. What separates them is a win or two each year that can be attributed to players making mistakes. The ball bounces funny sometimes and it has nothing to do with the coach. But it does with a close win.
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Everyone gives their name before asking a question, case solved
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Why couldn't he get those players in his 19 years at Pitt? He won his Super Bowl and got to another with players drafted BEFORE he became coach. Just like, as you say, Harbs did with his Super Bowl victory. Once those players got old, were released, or retired, he brought in no one. Should we go over the list of qbs he brought in & or drafted over the years? Same coach, no thanks. It is not a Pitt thing, I just see the two as interchangeable. OK, there is the whole stepping onto the field to slow down Jacoby Jones as he was returning a kick for an easy touchdown, where everyone gave him a pass including the league.
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Pit has many issues, it is not as good of a job as some think. They are aged, on defense, and some on offense. Then there is the qb situation, they don't have one and draft a bit low to get one in this coming weak qb draft class. They have been running on duct tape and chewing gum for years.
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I hope they get a head coach soon, the good oc's will be taken quickly what with the Iggles and Chargers now needing one
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What? Really? 1 super Bowl win, same as Harbs. Great regular season record, not so much in the post season. He is Harbs, the one you bash when the wind blows north. No thanks, besides he said he wants to take a year off.
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I agree, very good owner, inviting Lamar to sit in on the interviews, great sense of humor. His passion for the team came through loud and clear. A great watch/listen
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The Biscuit: "we have players on the offensive line that did not develope, took a step back, why? Coaching, so we have to fix that" On free agents on the team and Lamar's contract; want it done before free agency hits so we can sign our own players and go from there. If we have to, we will toss the $75 mil into void years and have him at this year's price. What I (the Biscuit) want to see happen is just add money to the current contract, it is that simple. Eric, 9 interviews between now and Sunday
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Tomlin steps down, wow
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6 Points, another 1st round loss in the playoffs, at home, on Monday night, when & where Mike T never loses, 22-4 overall, 12-0 at home. Well, at least until last night. Sure, he has an impressive streak of not having a losing season, but this is the 2nd year in a row where his team didn't just lose in the first round, they were destroyed. This year, against a team who kept dropping the snap on offense and only put up 17 pts, their defense scored 13 pts. Is Roger now going to sail off into the sunset with his supposed wife? Is Tomlin done? Yes, solid regular season record, but he is now 8-13 in the playoffs. He has now tied Marvin Lewis for most consecutive playoff loses, with 7. 8 division titles, 3 AFC championship games, 2 Super Bowls, 1 win. But since Big Ben retired, nadda, zip, zilch, not even a decent quarterback.
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Again? Seems Jerry was right.
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Parsons, no tackles, no sacks, no pressures in the playoff game. AJ Brown, more drops than catches, big drops. Both players paid lots of money and their teams are out of the playoffs, carry on
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So what draft position will the Ravens be in? 14th pick
tsylvester replied to tsylvester's topic in Baltimore Ravens
In case you couldn't watch the game last night, watch the Indiana wide out, Sarratt, talked about him earlier in the thread. He is not a speed demon, he is what this team needs, a possession receiver who is tough, physical and has great hands. The Ravens can get him in the 2nd, maybe even the 3rd. They don't have a guy like this, though they use Likely for this, if they resign him. Think of Puka, very similar skill set https://youtu.be/Ll10FXn5Jjg?si=ItJPEvPDk-PcmUI8 -
Get whatcha can when ya can
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Swart and McDaniel would be a great combo, Nestor the pester would be over joyed, he and Jim are buddies. Flores is intriguing, strong ties to Bill B, must have learned a lot from him. Got a raw deal in Miami, but he might have also not been ready to be hc at the time. He and Swartz game planning defense ought to scare the crap out of the league. I think that would be a great staff
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Like the quarterback that sets a franchise up for 5+ years of success or turmoil for 5 years. A new head coach, all new assistants, training staff, in game adjustments, clock management, could set this team up or destroy it. When Billick was fired, the same "fear", consternation, gripped players, fans alike. While Harbs had his issues, a bottomless pit of a dog house, in game management, he also brought us what 6, 7 division titles, and couple of conference championship games, several ending in heartbreaking fashion, two missed field goals, a dropped/fumbled touchdown/two point conversion. A miraculous last second 70+ yard bomb to win and go to a Super Bowl, which they won, despite a huge power "failure" just after half time. Yes, Harbs had his issues, most if not all coaches do, but hopefully the next head coach is at least as winning as Harbs.
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https://youtu.be/Qj1xzYBEfoQ?si=WMc4RVDm8aMH310Z
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So what draft position will the Ravens be in? 14th pick
tsylvester replied to tsylvester's topic in Baltimore Ravens
In case you couldn't see the game last night, quite the game and a good look at some draft picks