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Only to you Force. You're just missing the attention.

Papa - that what I said. I can't justify the early walk to the edge. I don't get that. I don't know. But once the play is in motion... from "eyes on field" to jumping, it's about 1 second. And I really believe it would take anyone that long to make a decision about what to do. Find your bearings, then turn. And OTR - I think you are misappropriating the "better view" quote. Watching on the big screen is definitely a better view overall. But not better for watching yourself as you watch a play! They are different "views" you are talking about. Meanwhile - I am not a softy. I don't think. I will still trash Peter Angelos and many others with the best of them. But I won't just trash to trash - never have.

But everyone else is watching the field. Guarantee you if you are watching yourself on screen - like in a mirror - your first move is to verify where things are. It's disorienting... If he just jumped, he may have jumped the wrong way!

You're looking at the board. You see yourself in the play. First reaction? Where am I in relation to the play? Look at field to see. Move. Look at the video, in slow mo it feels like forever. In real time, it was about one second of glance. The step to the field earlier .. More suspicious.

Still not convinced it was intentional, but certainly egregious. He was definitely watching the screen and saw the play coming up on him... And I can give some credit to the idea that it takes time to get your bearings when you are watching yourself on a TV. He looked over his shoulder but it was hardly for than a second in real time.

Force, the flaw in your logic is that we know that white line is hardly ever clear - especially of head coaches. If officials were to throw that flag every time they saw someone or had to adjust a route, we'd never see a game finish. It wasn't "being in the official's way" that is causing a stir - it was the interference with the play. But given the frequency of coaches being in the way (and players), why would you logically conclude it would create interference with the play? We wouldn't because it never does. Again, I'll leave it at this - I will gladly admit I'm wrong to the first person who saw Tomlin's interference during the play - meaning BEFORE Jacoby even got up and pointed at him and certainly before we were shown it on replay in stadium or at home. I remember thinking "something seems fishy" because of Jacoby's pointing at the sideline, but couldn't even tell what might have happened... then I let it go until they came back from commercial several series later (it wasn't even the immediate timeout following the kick)

I'm just cutting him some slack. I didn't notice it during the play - did you? I noticed Jacoby get up and point at the sideline, but I wasn't sure if it was a complaint or a brag. No one really seemed to have any clue on it until they starting replaying it. Even the TV crews missed it until the Ravens replayed it. And as much as these guys are "the best," we also know that they are not really full time and most have other jobs during the week. Of course he was trying to keep up to see possible infractions - but his eyes are on the field where you expect the infraction to be. Ever seen the tests they have done on eye witnesses? You're told to watch a video and complete a task - keep your eye on the elevator, how many people get on and off? But the test isn't whether you can watch the elevator, it's that in trying to count you miss everything else happening. Could you describe any of the people on the elevator that you were counting? Not a chance. Our brains can't do it. So all I'm saying is the guy is watching the play and running full speed - I forgive him for not being so aware as to notice the actions of every person, especially those who are not really a part of the play.

I didn't say Tomlin gets a pass. I said the OFFICIAL gets a bit of a pass on missing it because it was so unusual and unexpected.

I'll give the refs a break on the Tomlin bit (not Tomlin himself of course) because it is such a rare call. It was only called last week when the official actually had contact, right? That poor official in that pic is working his bytt off just to stay close to JJ. I am sure he hardly saw Tomlin until he was out of the way and didn't even notice JJ change routes as unusual in the moment. But I agree 100% on the defensive PI and holding calls. I also thought there were a ton of offensive holding calls but at least they were consistently not called.

Michael Kiwanuka... crazy mixture of some of the greatest in classic soul/rock/folk... Van Morrison, Willie Nelson, Al Green... all hidden in here. This is the one that's just been stuck in my head for weeks. But check out his others.

Bengal Billy... we can start this debate if you want... but put on some Mumford & Sons or some Dawes and tell me they aren't doing some fantastic things. Writing all their own music. Playing it all themselves. Quality song writing without being cheesy or overly cliched. And both, at very young ages, have written not only solid albums, but albums that span from anthems to slower quality 'drawls' for lack of a better word.

I clicked on this thread for the first time in months... knowing that THAT is what Spen wrote. I'm just surprised that there wasn't a video embedded. I owe Ken $10.

Streets of Baltimore is a fav of mine. I asked the O's to play it at games this year because I think it could be a great inter-inning anthem. Especially when he says "she swore the prettiest place on earth was Baltimore at night!" Gram Parsons does a great version as well. And Adam Duritz of Counting Crows has a version in Baltimore (Powerplant?) on YouTube I think.

Speaking of can't figure it out / stop listening... I love Dylan and his music, but he does some just plain wacky performances. I mean, I don't know if this is how he likes it to sound (as it sounds this way frequently) or if he was just high as a kite... but the way everyone else performing was so into it... and Dylan is just 'blah' is fascinating. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHX-JBHRk-8

Craig is out there... but I love it. It's all unscripted, ad-lib... I think all of his puppets are hilarious... The pig, which was winning the puppet vote off, dropped out of the race in Mark Sanford (governor of Georgia style)... He's just a goofball. My kind of humor, my kind of funny guy. And I also like that he does "serious" very well. He often makes very thought-out speeches about the state of our country or world, etc, and it's never blaming anyone in particular... it's just like, here we are, dammit.

Funny enough... I actually saw this performance on Dave before watching Craig Ferguson... The weird dancing girl was mesmerizing ... I don't know what else to say ... And yeah, it made me laugh like crazy... I just don't get it... but I can't stop watching... Also... I express this frequently... but I really don't like Dave. I especially hate just how clearly fake his "you were great" moments are. "Wow. Outstanding. Wow. Great. Just Great. Wow. Remarkable. Mmm... Edward Sharpe..." Every damn night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoaTl7IcFs8 Michael Franti and Spearhead... Say Hey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_02xJnMXDnc

Rain King by Counting Crows... live version where they transition into Thunder Road by Springsteen... A - MAZ - ING

Brett Dennen www.brettdennen.net Yes, he's 29 and looks like a 13 year old girl... and occasionally sounds like one too... but his music is amazing. Saw him at the Recher this weekend. Stellar.

I'll say what I said last time... Amos Lee. Swweeeeeet.