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Okay, Ive been fascinated by the whole steroid in the NFL thing so Ive been researching it a bit a diggin up a bunch of stuff. One person: Alvin Roy Alvin Roy was the first strength coach in any professional sport. He was the first to use weight training. Up until then, it was believed that weight training was a hinderance to athletice performance. He changed everything. In 1962 he was hired by the San Diego Chargers. In 1963 they won a championship. This is the same team ESPN featured a few weeks ago as the first ever 'juiced up' team in the NFL. Its WELL documented that Alvins training, included "little pink pills." These pills were Diannabol, a steroid. THIS is the begining of steroid use in the NFL. Now, it gets interesting. Guess who else employed Alvin Roy as a strength and conditioning coach? The Kanas City Chiefs in 1968. Guess who won Super Bowl 4 in 1969? His Kanas City Chiefs. And after that guess who employed Alvin Roy? The Dallas Cowboys in 1972. Superbowl 6 winners in 1972? Dallas. Guess who else employed Alvin Roy? The Oakland Raiders in 1980. Guess who won Super Bowl 15 in 1980? You got it. Unfortunately, Alvin died before the end of the Raiders season. Now for the really interesting part (the trolls will eat this up). Guess who was a defensive assistant on the 1963 Chargers championship team? Chuck Noll. Who went on to be a secondary coach of............The Baltimore Colts. Who, in 1968 possesed the top rated defense, amassed a 13-1 record and were heavy favorites in SB3 before Joe "I wanna kiss you" Namath upset them. Now, if you look back at the 63 Charger roster, you will see 2 or 3 O/D linemen who went on to play for.........The Kansas City Chiefs in the late 60s. I stopped reading and researching after this because, the web can really spread if you consider player movement from the Colts, Chiefs, Cowboys and Chargers. Not to mention other San Diego assistants from 1963 who went on to other positions with other teams. Point being, steroids were well entrenched in the NFL long before Pittsburgh won anything in the 70s. A couple of other tid-bits about Alvin Roy. Before catching on in the NFL, he was hired in 1958 by the LSU Tigers to be their strength and conditioning coach. The results? You guessed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_LSU_Tigers_football_team The 1958 national champions. In 1959? Third, but still considered the best defense in school history: http://louisianastate.scout.com/2/681198.html Alvin Roy is probably the most influential, yet most unknown person in modern football. The size, shape, and strength of the modern football player (and therefore the way the game is played) can be traced back some 40 years directly to him. He is the man behind the curtain. And all of this from a man who doesnt even have a wikipedia page devoted to him (but he does have a myspace page interestingly enough http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...ndid=397064845) 2 LSU players, Jim Taylor and Billy Cannon, were the reason Roy got his job with LSU. They knew him and trained at his gym as high schoolers. Both endorsed Roy and his training methods to then LSU coach Sid Gilman. Cannon won the Heisman in 1959 and both went on to play in the NFL. Taylor with Green Bay and Cannon with Houston before finishing his career in 1970 with...suprise suprise, suprise, Alvin Roy and the Kanas City Cheifs. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CannBi00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylJi00.htm And where did Roy learn his craft? As a coach with the US Olympic weight lifting team in the 1950s when it was alledged that the Russians were heavy into the stuff.

Then let Ray walk too

We dont need Rolles 5 Million Dollar price tag..

Losing C-Mac and now Rolle wants to be released, forces our hand, to the kid from Utah or Alfie.

Good..4.5 mil more to the Cap.

Bring him here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let Brown go, go get Jeff Saturday..You know Pay-A-Tons anchor, you know the guy that dosent let Manning get sacked up the middle.

Also - quit making things up. Oil prices were as low as $30 (or less) as recently as 1999/2000. It hasn't been forever. Prices shot up in the last 5 years and have been unstable ever since. But in the late 90s and early 00s, we were under 30 many a day. Im appalled that you think I would make something like that up, Black and White 1972-76 was at 40 a barrell. 76-79 Crude was below 30 a barrell, 80 -85 it was between 40 and over 65 a barrell. 85-04 we were at the 20-30 a barrell range. http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm

dc, 36.00 a barrel, we havent seen that since the 80's and we were paying 99 a gallon, now I know we wont see under a buck for gas again, but 1.89 as Im paying for fuel is Exxon, Chevron etal trying to get their profits back. If gas is 2.50 a gallon as projected and oil is 40.00 a barrel, an internal investigation should be in order.

1 pack of smokes and maybe a 6 pack of cheap beer.

More Suggs, who has talked about his desire to stay with the Ravens (even suggesting a hometown discount), recently said he wants a long-term deal, not the franchise tag. "If they don't see me in their future long term, do not draw me out when I'm 26," Suggs told TRA Sports 910 in Phoenix on Friday during NBA All-Star festivities. "At least let me explore my options. If you want me on your team, then prove it, do something about it. But if not, we need to part ways and you know it's been a good run." more

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090216/ap_on_...prices_unhinged NEW YORK – Crude oil prices have fallen to new lows for this year. So you'd think gas prices would sink right along with them. Not so. On Thursday, for example, crude oil closed just under $34 a barrel, its lowest point for 2009. But the national average price of a gallon of gas rose to $1.95 on the same day, its peak for the year. On Friday gas went a penny higher. To drivers once again grimacing as they tank up, it sounds like a conspiracy. But it has more to do with an energy market turned upside-down that has left gas cut off from its usual economic moorings. The price of gas is indeed tied to oil. It's just a matter of which oil. The benchmark for crude oil prices is West Texas Intermediate, drilled exactly where you would imagine. That's the price, set at the New York Mercantile Exchange, that you see quoted on business channels and in the morning paper. Right now, in an unusual market trend, West Texas crude is selling for much less than inferior grades of crude from other places around the world. A severe economic downturn has left U.S. storage facilities brimming with it, sending prices for the premium crude to five-year lows. But it is the overseas crude that goes into most of the gas made in the United States. So prices at the pump will probably keep going up no matter what happens to the benchmark price of crude oil. "We're going definitely over $2, and I bet we'll hit $2.50 before spring," said Tom Kloza, publisher and chief oil analyst at Oil Price Information Service. "This is going to be an unusual year." On the last day of 2008, gas went for $1.62 on average, according to the auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express, a company that tracks transportation data. The recession in America has dramatically cut demand for crude oil, and inventories are piling up. So prices for West Texas crude have fallen well below what oil costs from places like the North Sea, Saudi Arabia and South America. That foreign oil sells in some cases for $10 more per barrel — and that doesn't even include shipping. Brent North Sea crude, which feeds some East Coast refineries — and therefore winds up at many gas pumps around America — now costs about $7 more per barrel than the West Texas crude. Deutsche Bank analysts say the trend should continue. Historically, West Texas International crude has cost more. So nobody bothered building the necessary pipelines to carry it beyond the nearby refineries in the Midwest, parts of Texas and a handful of other places. Now that the premium oil is suddenly very inexpensive, refiners elsewhere can't get their hands on it. "It's so cheap," said Lynn Westphall, the senior VP of external affairs at San Antonio-based Tesoro, which owns a half dozen refineries on the West Coast and Hawaii. "But you can't just build a pipeline to everywhere. We know we can't get it." Tesoro's refineries in North Dakota and Utah use locally drilled oil and Canadian oil, which also has been running about $10 more per barrel than West Texas crude. So why not build more pipelines? Because investing billions of dollars over several years makes no sense when the prices could just flip a year from now to where they were before. "How long is WTI going to be cheaper than Venezuelan oil? Than Canadian?" asked Charles T. Drevna, president of the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association. "You just don't build a pipeline like that." At the same time, refiners have seen the same headlines as everyone else about job losses and consumer spending. They've slashed production just to avoid taking losses on gasoline no one will buy. Result: Higher gas prices. "Why should a refiner produce more gasoline when the stuff we produce is not being used?" Drevna said. Of course, complex explanations of the diverging price paths of West Texas crude and gas are unlikely to placate frustrated drivers. Memories of last summer's $4-plus gas have not receded. "Drivers are being ripped off even more now than before," said Stuart Pollok, who was filling up recently at a Chevron station in downtown Los Angeles. He pointed out Exxon Mobil Corp. reeled in billions in profits last year when oil prices neared $150. Others see the conspiracy reaching higher. "It got really low during the elections and now it's going back up," said Christel Sayegh, a 23-year-old graphic designer in Los Angeles. "They do that every election, though, right?" I dont buy this BS for 1 minute, now all of a sudden theres a different type of oil thats used for gasoline..Gimme a friggin break.

Thats really going to stimulate the economy..jesus christ.

It says here that it's not unrealistic for the Browns to demand a No. 1 pick for Anderson, or a combination of picks that approaches similar value. Memo to whoever in the hell is running the Brownies..5 6 round picks does NOT = a first rd pick that you are praying for.

CJ is a FA, they are just going to let him walk..Thats bad Billy..

That is only if he doesn't sign the tender, which is because he technically is not part of the team. If you sign it though, you get the money automatically I believe Come on now Cleet, do you actually think T-Sizz is going to sign the tender next week and be here for all the mini-camps, and then Camp in July?? If we Tag Suggs tomorrow, we wont see him til August 20th or later, and he'll use the media as his liason..I cant believe they cant get him signed..Use the Tag on Brown for petes sake.

Thats a creepy ass movie, reminds me of Catonsville.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGCnnxYqBs

Just like Raubach

Are you sure? I thought if a player signs the tender, he gets the money regardless of what happens in camp. Yes, he gets paid when he signs the tender..But according to CBA rules, he has until the last week of camp to report without getting fined, guarantee thats what he'll do..Just like this past season. He lucked out with the injury bug, maybe this year we wont be o lucky?

Yes, I have..You got to get into bro.. Hey, back to Suggs and Brown..Did I hear this right, that Brown wnts 40-50 million dollar range?? thats how much Guards make??

But if he shows for Camp, and gets hurt, he gts doosquat

Understand, when you hit him with the Tag he dosent get paid til week 1 of the season

Suggs doesn't care about the tag. Not like McAlister did. We Tag him, he will not show up until the last week of camp.

Wrong, the key to success, is that front line, they are coming up on 3 years of playing together thats when you know you have a unit, you start picking them apart and we'll be in trouble.