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"Tell you what...if the Ravens win in Green Bay then this team can win in Pittsburgh." It will mean they took the next step this year. That's what I'm looking/hoping for.

Since we're looking ahead....I want that linebacker McLain from Alabama and definately we have to get Areanas...get on itg Ozzie!

I wish this was NFL QB's filing it instead of a gold digger...

Cam doesn't think the weather will be a problem...

Me too. I think Monday night is their only chance to go 10-6...it's a must win game IMO. I don't see the Ravens winning in Pittsburgh....it could happen with some breaks but the best chance to go 10-6 is by winning Monday Night. I look at it this way...a loss to Green Bay means that this team is still falling short, has too many weaknesses and is not playoff caliber. That kind of team won't beat the Steelers in their house when they are desperate too.

Time for everybody to run out for toilet paper! Get in your cars Baltimore!... and hit anything you see! We should easily hit 300 accidents for today...

I've been thinking it's time for a while now. With the offense stalling, a change is needed and fortunately the Ravens have the parts in place to do it.

Too early for me. The regular season is short and the off season long. I don't get into Free Agency until after the Super Bowl and the draft until March....but save this thread and list...it's a good work sheet to start with. I do see about a 30% turnover on this roster... anyway....I'm focused on the Packer game.

I'm hearing it will be in the teens come gametime....maybe flurries or light snow. When was the last time we saw the Ravens play and win in the snow? This is no walk in the park. Ravens on MNF???...another albatros. 21 teams have more sacks than the Ravens so without Suggs it looks like Rodgers won't have to worry. I'm not feeling good about this game. It's a must win to me because I feel even worse about the Ravens chances at Pittsburgh. The Ravens have to go all out...break out everything....have the perfect gameplan and execute it.

You play to win the game...that's what surfaced during the indecision of the moment. I love it.

I meant to put this up 2 weeks ago. Because the season's wearing down, you can get NFL Game Rewind for $24.99. It gives you online... So if you have a decent computer, monitor and speed the games come through fantastic. Usually I tape every game because I like to see each game twice...once at the stadium and once on TV to get it all...and because I'm a fanatic. Anyway, I broke the VCR so this fills the bill. Plus this includes the playoffs. You can be watching the Raven/Steeler game in 5 minutes...literally. No, NFL.com is not paying me a commission...

Good article on Kruger this morning...

Yea...last night Harbaugh said that was the call from the bench...if Farrior shadows Rice he's the target. The Steelers all week prepared to stop Rice...they knew he was the key....and they could not do it.

Nice thread....and good points pumpkinhead... Ravens/Steeler games are always ugly...it's hard to come out looking good so the win tells the tale. That's what you hang your hat on. At the game in the 4th quarter I quoted that line "You play to win the game!" to my brother. I was thinking of the Ravens offense. They had to take some big play chances...some risk/reward plays...conservative was not going to do it. and they did...going for it on 4th and making it broke the stalemate. Momentum shifted. The steelers were having trouble throwing. The Ravens front 7 on D seemed fresher due to continuous rotation of personel (they need to do this from here on out)...and the O seemed to be wearing them down. The Ravens had 'more' in OT. Looking ahead this offense has to "play to win the game". Not recklessly, but that attack and confidence attitude needs to be there going into Green Bay.

FYI...the Ravens defeated the Steelers 12/30/07 in Pittsburgh, 27-21, with a 3rd string rookie QB...Troy Smith.

NFL writer Jason La Canfora is a believer...

Thank you for noticing Edwards...he's been playing great. Kruger will take the next big step next year after an off season of bulking up Ravens style and lot's of camps working on fundamentals. I think we have a "Keeper". He could become a real pass rushing DE but after seeing his athleticism on that play, maybe the Ravens develop another cyber-hybred. The draft looks good with Webb, Oher and Kruger emerging. Oh...McKinney has been filling in well also.

Whines Ward but it is true...Ben is a Drama Queen.

This should be a great one. Ravens are undefeated in prime time this year...let's go for the sweep. Win this game and it's looking "do-able" as far as making the playoffs. I respect Rodgers and the Pack (they have the potential to blow the Ravens out) but the Ravens are #5 in points surrendered and the Pack is #12 so their D is good but not lights out. They have had a *** I'm stupid for thinking this game is easy *** schedule...

Thanks for the update bmw. Just what I'm looking for as a Ravens fan: meaningfull games in December.

Who'd have thought the Ravens would win giving up 2 turnovers, 5 sacks, 9 penalties for 80 yards and losing the TOP battle? Not me. But then again...Ravens/Steelers games are always ugly. This one hurt the Steelers....

I like the 20-17 stat... The Ravens wore them out by the 4th quarter and OT.

My guess is the Steelers are banking on their defense to shut down the Ravens O and keep it close. Hate to say it but the Ravens O has been dysfunctional for 4 weeks so this might be an easy task for them. The Ravens need to keep Dixon in the pocket and have a shadow on him because he can and will run. Do that and stop Mendenhal and we have have a close game that could come down to Special Teams, kickers and turnovers. Ravens have the ST edge. Bottom line: Flacco and the Ravens O have to be better than the Steeler O today. They have to win the 1 on 1 matchups and make a few big plays.

This is looking ahead but here's an interesting article on wether the Ravens would be better off with a Capped or Uncapped 2010. Hat's off to Brian McFarland for doing all this research.