cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Who did I want the Ravens to select last season?? DRC or Flacco.. DRC is playing in the Super Bowl Flacco is the next JohnnyU. Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I will give you your props. So who are we selecting this year that will lead us to the promise land oh all-telling cravn? Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 DB, Im liking this Alfie kid, WR, I want some more info on that 6'5" kid from Carolina..Its still early in the game, Im not over the AFCC Loss yet. Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 DB, Im liking this Alfie kid, WR, I want some more info on that 6'5" kid from Carolina..Its still early in the game, Im not over the AFCC Loss yet. I know what you mean, the pain will probably not start to subside until after the Super Bowl. A Cardinals win would make that pain a long forgotten memory for me. I would truly be able to appreciate what we accomplished this season if the Cardinals won. I cannot stand knowing we lost to the Steelers three times this season, and they went through us to win the Super Bowl. Who is the 6'5" kid out of Carolina? What about this guy? Sean Smith our of Utah is another big corner: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...9&genpos=CB Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 My Bad, 6'2" Hakeem Nicks WR, *Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina Another underclassmen who made headlines in a bowl game was Nicks. The Tar Heels leading receiver, who’s been debating whether or not to turn pro, may have made up his mind after the performance he had in the Meineke Car Care Bowl. Nicks was the shining star for North Carolina in their 31 – 30 defeat against West Virginia as he hauled in eight catches for 217 yards and three touchdowns. If this was Nicks’ last game in Carolina Blue, the 6-foot-1, 210-pounder should be among the top five receivers taken in the ’09 draft. Draft Projection: Second Round http://profootball.scout.com/2/825236.html 2nd rd projection, cant wait to see his Combine. I swore he was 6'5" I guess DB's are getting smaller? He looked huge. Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 More on Nicks http://hsnorthcarolina.scout.com/a.z?s=404...amp;nid=1860674 Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I like Nicks a lot as well. He is definitely one of the most polished receivers in the draft, and should be able to contribute right away. Both Mel Kiper and Butch Davis compared Nicks to Michael Irvin. Nicks position in the draft will be heavily dependent upon his 40 time, in my opinion. If he runs anything less than a 4.5, he should be a late first rounder. Anything in the mid 4.5s and up, and he could fall. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Nicks is reliable, but he lacks a lot of explosion. He's a good route runner, but sometimes you simply need to be faster than the better DBs to get yourself open. And he's slower than the majority of them. Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 We dont need speed KS, we need field smarts..Raymond Barry was the slowest WR in the NFL, but he had field smarts. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 We do need speed. Clayton and Mason are both "field smart" players--possession receivers. Having three of them on the field at the same time does a quarterback very little good. You need speed in today's game (as long as it's coupled with skill). Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 We do need speed. Clayton and Mason are both "field smart" players--possession receivers. Having three of them on the field at the same time does a quarterback very little good. You need speed in today's game (as long as it's coupled with skill). Nicks is more of a Anquan Boldin/Jerricho Cotchery than a Mark Clayton/Derrick Mason. Nicks' smarts allow him to get downfield, and his size/athleticism allow him to fight for balls in the air. We do need speed, but we also need guys who understand how to get open and can bail Flacco out. Nicks has both qualities. Lets see how he runs his 40. He is certainly much less of a risk than DHB or Harvin. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I agree with that last part, absolutely. I don't think he's any risk at all; we know exactly what we're going to get with him. I'm just not so sure if that's what we want. Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 Clayton dosent have field smarts..Yes hes great on the bomb..How many passes were just missed because of our short recievers. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 That doesn't say anything about field smarts, though. I'm not saying he's a pro, but he's certainly not a concern when it comes to finding his way. Think about how many of those bombs would have been catches if we had a receiver fast enough to get to them and good enough to catch them. Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I do believe that Clayton is going to be a lot better next season. He was starting to progress at the end of the season and was really getting on the same page as Flacco. While we do need a deep threat, neither guys like Fitzgerald or Boldin are burners, but they are able to get deep. I think Nicks could be one of these guys. Who would you guys rather have, Harvin or Nicks? Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I'd absolutely prefer Nicks to Harvin. Percy is my least favorite of the bunch. However, I'd prefer DHB to both of them, I think. Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 I'd absolutely prefer Nicks to Harvin. Percy is my least favorite of the bunch. However, I'd prefer DHB to both of them, I think. Intersting... DHB is certainly a trendy pick: size, speed, hometown kid, but I am very worried that he may turn out to be another Ashlie Lelie. He is very risky. Luckily there is another three months until the draft for us to get a better idea. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Absolutely. I'm not set in anything yet, and I doubt anyone else is, either. I keep repeating it, but every time I look at this draft, I come back to LB, too... We'll see. DHB is definitely risky, and the Lelie comparison is more than legitimate. The combine will tell us a lot about him. Quote
cravnravn Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 DHB is a desperate pick, yes he has size n speed, but he has the TD Taylor disease, yeah he can do the end round, but so could you and I. Quote
ForceEight Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 DHB is a desperate pick, yes he has size n speed, but he has the TD Taylor disease, yeah he can do the end round, but so could you and I. How does he compare at all to Taylor? The only reason they used him like that was because it was so successful considering how awful the Terrapins' offense was overall. Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 In my opinion, we need someone who can go up and grab balls, then come down with them. Nicks has extremely strong hands, and catches everything thrown to him. I just do not see that aggression with DHB. As good as Mason is, he is sometimes too small to fight for those balls across the middle. Flacco does not have a very big window to throw to with Mason/Clayton. Nicks would give Flacco a bigger target and a larger window to throw to. Quote
BCEagles Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Who did I want the Ravens to select last season?? DRC or Flacco.. DRC is playing in the Super Bowl Flacco is the next JohnnyU. And Matt Ryan is a bust. oh. wait. Quote
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