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    Bahbye

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    If you put Pitta's hands on Ed he would be a top 5 TE in the league. It's a shame he couldn't catch a cold although he did have his moments. He made a big catch in the Superbowl so there was that.

    Plenty of potential with that guy but seems to lack true confidence in his hands

    Ravens reportedly met with Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I don't want to take a safety in the 1st. Clinton-Dix is the best fit, but I'm not sold on him. Prior is not a good fit in my opinion. I think we would be getting an Elam clone. I would love Jimmie Ward in the 2nd. Lewan/Martin in the 1st and Ward in the 2nd would be ideal for me. This is assuming Evans, Gilbert or Donald don't fall.

    I agree on Pryor. But NFL network is push Buchanan. Fastest Safety in the draft but built like an SS. Had the most picks last year of the top 5 safeties. Ward is regarded as the best coverage Safety.

    Hey Check This Poll Out

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Well at least they got the 2 top qb's of all time and one of them was ours....These modern day qb's don't compare, the game was much different then, Brady and Peyton would have been mauled beyond recognition in those days....Could you see Brady with Lambert or LT laying some vicious hits one after the other on him with no ref protection ?...lol......He would have to use the long snapper on every play with a no step drop and throw while turning and running for his life screaming, I want my Mommy.....It was truly a man's game back then...

    Too brutal for Brady the crybaby. He's great for this finesse era.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I suspect that Barry had short area speed that was amazing. Most likely, if you broke down his 40 it was amazing from 0-20, good 20-30, and tapering 30-40. So if you have long speed and keep chasing with an angle to boot, you have a chance to catch him.

    P, I could talk Barry all day. Amazing player, we are all fortunate the Cowboys didn't get him or some other team that opened big holes and had a better coach than Wayne Fontes

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Just saying he had 4.4 or sub 4.4 speed. He got caught some but who has more 80 yard runs? Not many. Who has mor runs over 20? Nobody. He had a lot if opportunities to get caught. I love Jamal so I won't speak on him vs Barry. Apples and oranges.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Sanders measured up at 5-foot-7 5/8, 203 pounds and ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37. ... I wish he was a little taller. ... Has Tony Dorsett-like ability as a runner, unbelieveable quickness (quickness grades above 80 percent). ... Great leg strength and vision. ... Can cut, stop and start on a dime. ... Has been very durable. ... Can return kickoffs (two for TDs in 1987). ... Oklahoma State seldom throws ball to running backs but he did catch ball well in practice. ... Great person, everyone from equipment manager to the secretaries brag on him. ... Should be a Pro Bowl player.

    - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/release.aspx?release_id=1206#sthash.3TUQLavi.dpuf

     

    That's from Gil Brandt of the Dallas Cowboys.

    4.37. But how many moves did he have to make before he could take off when he was a Lion. But check out at OSU.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I don't think Barry was that fast. I saw him caught from behind an awful lot. I thought he was in the 4.5 range.

    Above average. He got caught at the end of 80 yarders or 60. He didn't have long speed (100 meter sprinter speed) and usually made a lot of moves just to break the runs. Barry was 4.4 but I'll look for it.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Hey guys, I'd be happy with either West (who I think has demonstrated power) or Archer (big and fast). All I know is we've got to draft our next franchise RB.

    How big is Archer, thought he was a little guy.

     

    West is more of a grinder. From what I have seen, he didn't have a ton of huge runs. More chunk gashes than 50 - 60 yard bursts.

     

    But we are talking about a guy that will likely be 3rd on the depth chart. He'll get some run during Rice's suspension. Buts he's going to be HB3.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    For a RB 40 time is not hugely important unless he is moving at slug speed. More important is burst and acceleration. BArry Sanders was not really that fast but he could stop and start so fast that he would break a defender down.

    Barry was more quick, change of direction, and burst. You're right about that but he didn't lack speed. He wasn't a 4.3 guy but he surely was well above average in speed.

     

    P, that's not to disagree with you. I agree, 40 times don't make a great back. Some guys play faster than they run a drill. But it's a nice luxury to have. That's all.

    I told you he wasn't a #1

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Lol! Gentlemen, you won't change my opinion. If you can respect it, that's enough for me. I respect the fact you don't agree with me. While I understand what you're saying, I look at what he did without a lot of help and the fact that he still accomplished it. After week 5 it was bracket coverage. This yr I expect different. So I expect more. I'll revisit the subject after the season. If he doesn't show what I think he will, I'll be the first to admit it.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    Damn right ! I have been saying this kid since last fall when he gouged and ran all over the Terps. He's a wrecking machine, hammer and the kind of runner we've been missing since JLew. I sure hope he's there for the Ravens .

    He's no Jlew, I'm sure of that. Not one in this draft.

    I told you he wasn't a #1

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I guess it's gonna take Marlon or someone else to take his #1 spot with us to convince you then....I don't know if that will happen but I do know there are far better wr's than him at this point, and unless he gets better, it's just a matter of time before someone does....We'll have to wait and see, hopefully you are right !!

    Words definitely won't change my mind. But as I said, would you want to be without him? And I think he proves it to everyone else this season barring injury. But if he doesn't get injured and doesn't play up this yr then I might have to rethink my opinion but right now, I'll stand my ground. I hope you all are happy when he proves it. Lol! It'd be better for our Ravens.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I would prefer Andre Williams out of Boston College as my big back. 5-11 230 runs a 4.56

     

    http://youtu.be/Ujt1S9P2XHE

    I do like this kid but I heard his 40 time wasn't great. But that's ok if he plays fast. The question is will he be around in the late 3rd. I think if he and West are both there when the Ravens are ready to pick a back, it will be a hard decision. Williams did have much better opposition. He ripped up my Noles.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    They might pull more picks from trade backs. Jamal ran a 4.37 coming out of UT.

     

     

    I saw a report about how runners under 6 ft hold up better because they avoid so many hits.

    I agree. Lower center of gravity. Better balance and usually, to run people over you want to get lower than them while maintaining your forward lean and balance. Taller backs tend to run high. That's why they have more injuries. If a shorter back can carry the weight and maintain speed, it works well. 5-10 or 5-11 are good heights. West is 5-9 by reports.

    I told you he wasn't a #1

    in Baltimore Ravens

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    I hear you BG, and you may be right about this guy Willianson, but you have to admit ,if the article said TS was a true #1 and loved all up on him, you'd say, brilliant article !!....lol

    Not likely. Williamson is from Pittsburgh and he worked in the Browns organization. He rarely praises the Ravens. It's always begrudgingly if he does. He thinks he's not partial. So no, I really don't put much stock into what he says good or bad.

     

    Note that the Browns sucked when he worked there and no other team seems to be looking to add him but yet he's an expert. Yeah, no thanks to his views.

     

    Now if Ross Tucker had said this, I might take it more into account even tho I don't agree with him all of the time, he's impartial. Still wouldn't change my mind tho.

    I Like the Sound of This

    in Baltimore Ravens

    Posted

    P, I think we have to get him with that late 3rd rounder because I think our 4th is late also. I think it's so late, it's like a 5th round pick. I thought pierce was 230. If he's 220 then that's all the more reason to take a hard look at West. A lot of Ravens fans want a hammer, a Jamal but there's not many around that combine that kind of size, speed, and strength. Jamal was rare. Jamal ran around a 4.4 at around 240. If he was in this draft, he would be a late 1st or early 2nd. But I think West could be worth the risk with that late 3rd round pick .

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