The Browns finally make a smart move

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2 #1's for the 5th pick.

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They made a good pick on th eCB.

[Geronimo]

and then cleveland messes up the pick...........again

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I think the kid is good. He and Haden will be a really good tandem.

[Geronimo]

the kid IS good, you're right, manziel scares me i'm really glad they didn't pick him

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Things just got tough for the Ravens on D.

[Geronimo]

i'm going to love hating on Manziel, i have alot of respect for his game, but the Oz is drafting on defense we're going to be time enough for him. our linebackers will be able to contain him thats why the Mosley pick is a good one

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Easier said than done. Johnny did what to Bama? He has a great WR and a pretty good OL. They have lots of picks to get more targets.

[Geronimo]

I know you're not comparing the Bama defense to the Ravens?

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Yeah to be honest at the levels of talent Bama has been better than the Ravens D lately.

[cravnravn]

Deja Vu all over again, Quinn was a projected top 10 pick and fell to the Brownies in the 20's now Johnny football does the same..Its going to be a long year for that kid..Us twice, Pitt twice, and heck even the Bungles have a nice D.

[Robjr83]

Manziel's got some good things going for him in Cle. One of the best LT/C in the league, plus Josh Gordon and Cameron.

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Deja Vu all over again, Quinn was a projected top 10 pick and fell to the Brownies in the 20's now Johnny football does the same..Its going to be a long year for that kid..Us twice, Pitt twice, and heck even the Bungles have a nice D.

I always was very confident that Quinn was going to suck. I didn't like his game at ND. JM played a real schedule in the SEC and easily held his own.

[RavenMad]

JM played a real schedule in the SEC and easily held his own.

 

That's just what SEC honks want you to think. Texas A&M's OOC Schedule reads Rice, Sam Houston State, SMU, UTEP. I call bullshit on the real schedule. Nearly all of the SEC teams play relatively weak OOC schedules so that they can argue they are superior to other conferences. Why do you think their commissioner forced teams to schedule at least 1 game against another Automatic Qualifier conference that coincides with the start of the Playoff Selections in which Strength of Schedule is a factor. Which is a joke in itself as well (See what the Indiana AD had to say on the matter).

 

In short JM did not play any harder a schedule than any other QB in a AQ Conference.

[papasmurfbell]

Well they haven't gotten rid of those nonSEC games that are contracted yet.

 

In 2013 TA&M had a really horrid D so they had to just keep outscoring.

 

 

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p1

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cfb/players.asp?id=202568

 

Sat, Sep 14 (#1) Alabama * Kyle Field (College Station)

 

9/14/2013 Ala 28 39 464 71.8 5 2 95 14 98 7.0 0 20 0 0 - 0

That is a pretty damned spectacular game against Bama. That was the best D in college last yr.

 

Sat, Sep 28 Arkansas * Fayetteville, Ark. 45 - 33 (W)
STATS

Good solid SEC win.

9/28/2013 @ Ark 23 30 261 76.7 2 0 49 9 59 6.6 0 21

 

 

Sat, Oct 12 Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. 41 - 38 (W)
STATS

SEC win

10/12/2013 @ Miss 31 39 346 79.5 0 1 35 19 124 6.5 2 24

 

Sat, Oct 19 (#24) Auburn * Kyle Field (College Station) 41 - 45 (L)
STATS

There's that A&M D again. He also had a real solid game.

10/19/2013 Auburn 28 38 454 73.7 4 2 64 18 48 2.7 1 25

 

 

 

 

Sat, Oct 26 Vanderbilt * Kyle Field (College Station) 56 - 24 (W)
STATS

Damn good game.

10/26/2013 Vandy 25 35 305 71.4 4 1 43 4 11 2.8 0 9

 

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 09 Mississippi State * Kyle Field (College Station) 51 - 41 (W)
STATS

Excellent game.

11/9/2013 MissSt 30 39 446 76.9 5 3 75 14 47 3.4 0

16

 

 

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 23 (#18) LSU * Baton Rouge, La. 10 - 34 (L)
STATS 11/23/2013 @ LSU 16 41 224 39.0 1 2 51 12 54 4.5 0 13

Here is a poor game and the wheels came off A&M.

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 30 (#5) Missouri * Columbia, Mo. 21 - 28 (L)
STATS 11/30/2013 @Mizzou 24 35 195 68.6 1 0 32 11 21 1.9 0 6

 

 

 

Lets look at 2012 now

http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/697/1041700/passing/gamelog.html

 

 

Sat, Sep 08 (#24) Florida * Kyle Field (College Station) 17 - 20 (L)
STATS 09/08/12 9 Florida Grass L 17-20 30 23 76.7 173 5.8 0 0 125.11

The first game in th eSEC. Not a great day.

 

 

 

 

Sat, Sep 29 Arkansas * Kyle Field (College Station) 58 - 10 (W)
STATS

He has the hang of this thing now. Monster win.

09/29/12 Arkansas Grass W 58-10 38 29 76.3 453 11.9 3 0 202.51

 

 

 

 

Sat, Oct 06 Ole Miss * Vaught-Hemingway Stadium (Oxford, Miss.) 30 - 27 (W)
STATS

Not a great day.

0/06/12 @ Mississippi Turf W 30-27 26 17 65.4 191 7.3 1 2 124.41

 

 

Sat, Oct 13 (#23) Louisiana Tech Independence Stadium (Shreveport, La.)

59 - 57 (W)
STATS

A very nice day.

10/13/12 @ Louisiana Tech Turf W 59-57 40 24 60.0 395 9.9 3 1 162.70

 

 

 

 

Sat, Oct 20 (#6) LSU * Kyle Field (College Station) 19 - 24 (L)
STATS

A really tough day.

10/20/12 14 LSU Grass L 19-24 56 29 51.8 276 4.9 0 3 82.48

 

 

 

 

Sat, Oct 27 Auburn * Jordan-Hare Stadium (Auburn, Ala.)

63 - 21 (W)
STATS

A damn solid day.

10/27/12 @ Auburn Grass W 63-21 23 16 69.6 260 11.3 2 0 193.22

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 03 (#15) Mississippi State * Davis Wade Stadium (Starkville, Miss.) 38 - 13 (W)
STATS

Kicking ass and taking names.

11/03/12 @ Mississippi St. Grass W 38-13 36 30 83.3 311 8.6 0 0 155.90

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 10 (#1) Alabama * Bryant-Denny Stadium (Tuscaloosa, Ala.) 29 - 24 (W)
STATS

Damn fine production.

11/10/12 @ 1 Alabama Grass W 29-24 31 24 77.4 253 8.2 2 0 167.26

 

 

 

Sat, Nov 24 Missouri * Kyle Field (College Station) 59 - 29 (W)
STATS

A really good day

11/24/12 Missouri Grass W 59-29 44 32 72.7 372 8.5 3 1 161.70

 

 

 

Fri, Jan 04 (#11) Oklahoma Arlington, Texas 41 - 13 (W)
STATS

Real solid game playing back in the Big 12.

01/04/13 + 15 Oklahoma Turf W 41-13 34 22 64.7 287 8.4 2 1 149.14

[cravnravn]

College stats are fine and dandy for the heisman vote, I want to see his stats vs Balt and Pitt I bet it looks like this:

 

15 for 28, 160 3 ints and a fumble lost for good luck

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Of course. I am just saying he was quite good against the best conf in college. It is not like he was stacking them up in Conf USA.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8gWkn8BQU