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He has played it before, maybe during the real bye after the Stillers game....

He does look heavier no doubt. I guess we will never know if he heavier or has just lost s few steps. The benching of both Jackson and Williams is telling. One or both are not playing the coverages right or are just at the end of their careers. It's one thing to be too deep and get best underneath. Quite another when they so often get best deep. When they take wrong angles to make a tackle and the receivers run free for long touchdowns. We fans are not used to seeing this defense be bad, not since 1996, and most fans are too young to remember. We do remember the terrible safety play after Ed Reed, Rod Woodson retired, Eric Weddle moved on. Williams was playing great before he got hurt last year. Now,he flashes, but by & large he is trying to hard to read a qb, and gets stalled allowing receivers to get behind him, late to give the help. So if it isn't just the coaching, as Humph says, is Stone, who often left his responsibilities and made plays, and Queen, who didn't get better until Smith got here, the key issues? Neither is playing up to the level of last year, this year on their new teams. But is seems these players, Williams, Jackson, Stephens to some extent, have lost their speed and are trying to overcompensate by reading too long? The team clearly though cb, Stephens, needed to be replaced by trying to make the trade. But they also see that safety is the biggest problem, sadly, there is not much that they can do there, save for putting rookies in there. Maybe White will get his shot after this fake bye week, replace Stephens, see if that helps.

Yeah, I don't think an inseasoned change is going to help. If you listen and believe Humphries, it is not the coaching, but the players not taking the way they practice to the games. Guys are out of position, even though, by and large, the coverage scheme was correct to stop a play, but for some reason the safeties are out of position or the corners are. The linebackers are another issue. What changed there? Queen vs Simpson. I've seen Simpson out of position a number of times, just wandering. Smith is ineffective in coverage, in blitzing, is he trying to cover up for Simpson or did he really hit a wall? If, as Harbs and Humphries claim, the practices are solid, but it isn't translating to the game, is that coaching or player? Did Williams really lose his speed and instincts? Was Stephens just a decent corner last year because of the pass rush? Did Eric really miss on an unreal number of players he drafted, rush ends, corners, safeties? And this year, a year that they counted on those players because of cap issues, it has been revealed? All of them?

For sure, he would have replaced Stephens, been a great fit. Stephens just hasn't played up to last year's performance for some reaason

Yes, 3 sacks, 2 in the first half, not bad. A lot of pressure which Burrow was able to escape mostly: disciplined rush is nonexistent. I am not sure how Campbell would have helped. He is having a decent season but he is ancient, I am almost glad that they couldn't work something out with Miami.

Reportedly Ravens offered a 3rd for Lattimore but were out bid by the Commandos. Tried to trade for Campbell, but the Phins backed out at the last minute. I stand corrected

Oh I know papa, I was not directing my indignation at you buddy, just at the talking heads making the 2 ot try failure a story. They don't mention that I think it was Robinsin on the play, is being pulled down by the lineman, thus his hand hitting the face mask.

I see many talking heads calling out the refs for some calls. One comes to mind, they claim holding on Gisike on the 2 pt try. But as Bart Scott points out, Gisikie was trying to draw a foul, stuck his arm between the arms of the defender, then flailing and falling to the ground. No, the penalty should have been on him for unsportsmanlike.. Sure, Burrow got hit in the face mask, but did you notice the holding be done to that defender? No call there either. Or how about, on the same play, the hands to the face being done to VanNoy? All 3 penalties, 2 on the Bengals, one on the Ravens, happened right in front of the flag happy official, but he called none of them. I could point out others on the Bengals defense for holding in the secondary, or illegal contact on them, but we're not called. Yes, sure, Cinci only had 3 penalties, yes, sure, believe what you want. We have a great quarterback now, running, passing, buying time and weapons who know how to get open. Now to fix the pass defense as so many players said in the locker ooh after the game.

Man, losing Hamilton sucks, non contact inhury, just collapsed on the field. More of the same from the defense, spurts of stops, allowing the offense to score 21 unanswered points. 2 4th down stops, a game winning 2 pt conversion stop to end the game. But, too many communication issues, again. 1 player playing one tyoe of zone, another playing man. Players not playing zone properly. This just does not make sense, these are men who know how to play cover 3, cover 2, how to cover in man. So what is going on? Lamar, what can be said? Unreal, that scramble and run to the 1! The passing, the buying time. Wallace? Wow, staying in bounds, playing to the whistle. Yes, the Bengal defense thought he stepped out so they gave up on the play. Stephens is terrible, his confidence is gone. Begining of the year he was glue, sure, great throws, incredible catches, against him, but he was in perfect coverage. Now? He can't cover a jelly donut. It is clesr why the team went after Lattimore, but were out bid. Did White even play? Tucker? Tucker? Anyone seen Justin Tucker? Good thing we have a qb that is as fast and shifty like Lamar, makes 2 pt conversions easy. A win, a win.. Now a bit of a rest until the games really get tough

Let me start with 11-3 in numbers. Yes, the Ravens won that stat too; penalties. So you are saying the Bengals only had 3 penalties? With that much of a pass rush to always be a step behind? With shifty receivers like Flowers and Bateman? Only 3 on a night when the Ravens had 11? I'll get to the game, the incredible game in a minute, almost done wathing the 6 times a member of the Ravens was rushing, trying to get inside to sack a moving Burrow, but was held, seen, and not called.

Ravens cut Yannick Ngakoue, a pass rusher where they are thin and have had little production, hope to get him back on the practice squad Is this a roster move to fit White on the 53? Im not saying he has been a pro bowler, but certainly was working toward it, playing into shape. They wanted him back but wait until he was a waiver instead of a free agent? https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/ravens-waive-yannick-ngakoue

Given Lamar's record against Burrow, 7 or 8 and 1, the league has decided to help Joe out.... Over under on the # of defensive penalties called on the Ravens secondary is 6, I'll take the over. On the Bemgals secondary, it is 3, I'll take the under...

Here ya got Chase Daniels breake down Lamar's passing against the Broncos https://youtu.be/nAYiThFEh6Y?si=45sBfCSsPZFVvmdN

Orlando Brown Jr, Higgins, Jones are doubtful for the Bengals

Shefty reports that Likely is out for this game, Lamar is off of the injury report Urban is the only other starter to not practice today, he is questionable

Well, we can expect a flag fest

Before the last meeting, Burrow said that he/they had to play perfect to win the game, he darn near did. Since that meeting he has throw 8 tds and 2 picks, for 874 yards. In that game he threw 5 tds, had 1 costly, late pick. To help the defense, run the snot out of the ball, use the play clock. They will try and take the run away, run blitzes and such. But if the line can hold them off, big runs become easier as there will be little to stop rhe back once he breaks through. Penalties have to be kept down, last week started great, only 3 in the first half. Make a statement, let the Bengals know that their season is effectively over.

Yeah, maybe like the Comandos who way over paid for their corner, as good as he is. I understand that there was a bidding war for him, but wow. Or Dallas who was the only team after Wingo, a 4th? Still, the Giants, according to reports, wanted a 4th or a low 5th and 6th for Ojulari, who is on the last year of his contract. Seems pretty fair considering what other ends got traded for this past week. Is he a top sack artist? No, but is he more productive that Owe, Ojaba,Isaac, even Robinson who just had a break out game? Yes. It was time for Eric to cut the cord on at least 1 of his 3 reaches in the past drafts, Ojaba. Owe is playing decent, Issac should see more play moving forward as will Robinson. The later showed his strength and power collapsing the pocket often Sunday. The former has the speed to catch Burrow, Mahomes, Wilson when they break the pocket and scramble. But this team lacks the sacks, the disciplined rush the collapse from the ends. That alone would help the pass defense. Even with only 3-5 mil in cap space they could have rented Ojulari for this season. White, if healthy, with a repaired Achilles and acl (he tore the year before) is mostly a zone corner, not a true man corner. He is slowed by those injuries, and Wric, as he did with 2 defensive ends in the draft, is betting he will turnout, be a diamond in the rough. As it is they lose nothing if they cut him before seasons end. But who gets cut so he can have a roster spot? How is he, even if he works out, going to fix the communication issues?

I will add, the Ravens had 11 picks in next year's draft, acquired 2 players, both for depth on either side of the ball. They still have 11 picks in next year's draft, half of those players picked will not make the team, at the least. What happens if everyone stays healthy, but the team needs a sack at the end of a playoff game to push a team out of field goal range so that they can't kick the game winning field goal? By all reports, an edge rusher, where the Ravens lack depth most along the defensive line, would have cost at most 2 low round picks, a 5th and 6th. Are those 5th or 5th guys going to make a huge difference next year? I realize that this team faces a number of contracts next year, free agents, and recognize how important draft picks are to building a team without killing a cap. However, this defense has shown, even against sub par teams that pass rush is the most glaring need. Next to that is depth at defensive tackle, especially with the recent 4 game, at least injury to one of the better defensive tackles this team has. Eric missed the boat on this trade line, clinging to draft capital at the expense of a true Super Bowl run...

Yawn, the Rams get a 7th in 26, and send a 27 7th plus White who has been the Rams dog house for the past 4 games. Tore his Achilles last year while with the Bills. It is depth, surprised that they didn't land an edge rusher, cough cough, from the Giants..mmm Per Espn

Circle the wagons, prepare for the battle, the Bengals are madd and come into Baltimore with vengence in their hearts. They feel as if a win a few weeks ago between these two teams was snatched away from, that they deserved to win that game. Oh, they are not alone, the Ravens defense feels that even though they won, that they lost; their identity. They too are angry, is that hamgry, they hunger to prove that they can be a dominant force once again. The Baltimore offense is still clicking, leading the league in many categories, on a short week, against a familiar foe, can they keep the momentum going? Short wee games are odd, which team can get their energy level up, can recover from their last game, physically, just a few days earlier, quicker, usually comes out on top. These games may be low scoring or complete shootouts, we just never know until the dust settles. So, who ya got?

Right! He has played so little in college that he needs to be taught how to play qb in the league, including his mechanics. He is completing less than 50% of his passes and that is not because of his receivers.

Media saying the Colts were wrong to bench Richardson because of one game... Idiots

Yes, the defense did its job, 10 pts, 0-4 on 4th down, 2 or was it 3 goal line stands. The offense, against a really good defense destroyed them. 7 plays for Denver in the 3rd, 7, 2 possessions for the Ravens, 2 td drives in the 3rd. The pressure on the pocket was incredible, had Nix not been so mobile they would have sacked far more than what twice? If the defensive line can pressure like that with only four on Thursday, Burrow is in trouble. But then it is a Thursday game, who knows which team will be recovered enough to play well. Hate those games

I gave up on the game, switched on the new episode of Lioness..