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Man, Clowney just missed a huge sack, slips out of his grasp. Pass goes incomplete, 3 & out. Duv calls for a fair catch at the 26 yard line even though he had room to run, oops...

4:18 left in the half. Van Noy has had several great plays so far this game. A couple of missed picks so far on defense to go with one pick in the first half.

8 plays, 93 yards, Lamar takes it in, 14-3 Ravens. Big play on the drive, Lamar forced out of the pocket, finds Andrews on a reverse comeback. Gus rushes down, gets a key block, Andrews rumbles for 20+. He who trips over blade of grass had several nice 10, 11 yard runs. He who fumbles often takes it 15 yards to the two on the drive. A great drive, a Ravens drive, a much needed drive after the Lamar fumble on the exchange with He who trips over blade of grass.

First and 10, Jackson throws LATE, on an out route to Flowers, almost picked, incomplete. Sweep left, loss of 1, 3rd and 11... oy Wide receiver screen, quite obvious play call for the Browns, loss of 2, 4th down Huge punt by Stout, 59 yards, little return

Wow, get bailed out on a terrible play call and highly inaccurate pass with pi, first and 10 in the redzone. The Browns again call a terrible play and lose 20 yards. Shoot, they were nashing the Ravens defense on the ground off tackle to either side and they call trick plays, thankfully. They end up with a field goal, 7-3 Ravens

Tipped by Mallet, picked by Stephens, returned to the 10. One play, Lamar takes it in a qb draw. The Ravens are excellent so far this season in the red zone. 7-0 Ravens

Popped on to say, second series, 3rd and 13, Jackson back, some minor pressure from a 4 man rush, zone behind it. Jackson looks, decides to throw early to Andrews in the flat who gets 7 yards. If Lamar had read the coverage correctly, he had Duv on a come back route on the left side for a first down if thrown on time, wide open. He also had Flowers in the middle of the zone 15 yards down down field on a comeback route, wide open. His other option on the right side I believe is Alghalor at the sticks on a comeback route. Now he is not a real option as the dB in that zone was in a bait position, but a proper, timed throw to the inside could have been completed. 3 options, all for a first down with a properly timed throw. Lastly he had our runningback who trips over blades of grass wide open on the numbers, who likely gets the fist down with Alghalor and Flowers able to block. So, this drive that ends in a punt is the fact of Lamar, not play calling/ design or pocket pressure. This should have been known presnap, confirmed post snap, knowing the routes your receivers will run. Andrews had brakes coverage, with a linebacker leaning over to his side. No chance to get the 1st down.

Ps, I hate the way Fox covers college games, with their all 22 view... I want to watch the game, not analyze the game.../rant

Just being silly, but can we trade Lamar at draft time to whom ever had the 1st pick and get Caleb Williams?

5 is not seven or eight, so that is one way to look at it, from Espn

Watson, shoulder, did not practice again today, the rookie might start, who took all first team reps this week

You can do that with baseball & basketball, less injury, less serious injury risk sports. But football, nope, they get a free ride in college, get a degree I'd they want even if they suffer career ending injuries.

One curious stat, Browns defense has only given up 1 touchdown through 3 games. Time to change that!

That didn't take long. Spring pro football will never take, maybe with gambling legal it has a shot, but very long odds..

Watson has always struggled against the Ravens, 600 yards with 2 tds and 2 picks in 3 games or so. His line is not the best, but they have been very good in 3 games this year. While they don't have truly elite wide outs, nor is Watson(sore throwing arm) the most accurate, they can move the ball through the air. The biggest 2 issues the Ravens have on defense; missed tackles leading to extra yards and edge protection.. They have, especially against the Browns in recent years, been killed by off tackle runs, jump cuts outside. Then there is the sack issue (11 for 91 yards). Sure, they had 7 last week, thanks mostly to the blitz of Hamilton (3 sacks). But they also missed several others, letting the qb spin away. Watson is nothing if not an escape artist, so they better be quick to him, but under control to wrap him up. Yes I know I haven't touched on the Ravens offense vs the very good Browns defense... Scary thought right now not knowing who will line up outside for the Ravens and which Lamar Jackson will show up. Turnovers will rule this game of two very good defenses. As stellar as the Ravens defense has been, they have not gotten very many -2- Ravens are averaging 360 yards per game, allowing teams to average 322. They are 51% on 3rd downs, while allowing opposing teams to average 45%. This one could go either way, here is hoping for a home win with few if any serious injuries.

Well, Bateman is understandable coming off of lis franc, can't fault Obj for a sprained ankle, it happens.

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Well, neither of them has shown the ability to hold the edge, get pressure on the pocket, sack the quarterback, nor stay healthy. Most of us thought that those two were reaches, even a waste of draft picks. While they still have time to turn it around, I won't hold my breath.

Boy, that is good news. I've loved what Musterferd has done, actually better than Lindy, though it's early for him. But very glad that Stanley, Gus and Marcus could be back for this game. The Brownsay not be all time great, but that front seven is for real.

He was an excellent edge defender, good pocket pressure, though he averaged I believe 5 sacks per season. Very smart, learned under Billy B. IF, he can stay healthy, he should be a good stop gap for this season.

Good move given the injuries to the supposed edge setters that always seem to lose the edge in big times. A stop gap till Shan Na Na comes back... https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/baltimore-ravens-reportedly-signing-linebacker-two-time-super-bowl-champ-kyle-van-noy/

Can't do anything to prevent a sprained ankle nor bruised ribs. Hamstring injuries are tricky. Someone who works out every day can have one go bad while someone who never works out may never have one go bad. There really is no rhyme nor reason to the injury. Bateman may have a tight one because of the time off for his foot injury. Wallace? Working too hard? Not enough?

Bateman with a tight hamstring, Gus in concussion protocol, Ojaba has a bum ankle, (read choice of words), Stone has at least bruised ribs,... and Wallace went on Ir with a hamstring injury as well. Ouch, injuries are overflowing

Yeah, at this point you either take care of the fumbling issue or you don't. Shoot, look at the serial fumbler Gordon, when he ran yesterday, two hands on the ball, to the point is likely kept him from getting extra yards, though he ran pretty well. He wad clearly not about to fumble after what Drake and Lamar had done. I still wonder if Lamar can read a defense, presnap, or is just looking to see who might be open? I suppose we, fans, will never truly know. But based on how late he is on some throws when under pressure, it hints that he can't read a defense. Several times he had a back in the flat when the blitz came and didn't throw the ball to them or missed terribly. Todd always gives the qb an out for pressures, a back in the flat, a tight end on a short curl on one side or the other. I've seen Lamar look at the flat and ignor it, pulling the ball down. Shoot, pull the ball down and run, or move off the spot, help your offensive line!

Used to be game to game, we would not know which Lamar we would get. Now, it is series to series. Not sure what he was looking for when he fumbled, but from tv it appeared that there were open receivers.....