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I think ot is the need on the ol. They can’t put money in Stanley again. Try to draft a lt. we have so many picks next yr we need to package some to move up or trade them into 26.

That is how you can equate them. With all the other parts devising what levels guys are at is impossible. btw joash Allan had so many more yds and tds last yr compared to Lamar. The issue was that raven won the top seed so convincingly that that Lamar got the mvp. Interesting how that same narrative isn’t playing out this yr.

But the point is in the hypothetical team switch those numbers would be completely different. Kelce has had a down yr. Obviously mahomes #1 target. Likely in this season is playing better. Rice who would best equate to flowers has been out all season. Moore who equates to Bateman gone all yr. Hollywood has been back what 2 weeks? No chemistry yet. Henry hill and Ali are way better than what has been in kc. The ravens ol has been much more solid than kc. I think kc is on their 3rd lt for the season. with all that please explain how Lamar would even be within 1000 yds of his passing numbers now. On the kc roster from the end of last season to now with everything else on that chiefs roster still happening the same Lamar has at best 2500 yds 20 tds and at least 10 picks. Throw Pat over here at this point he either has 5000 yds or is in striking distance of it. He very well could be going for manning td record. He probably has about the same picks.

And you believe kc with all their injuries at skill positions are more talented than what Lamar has had all season? You are actually proving my point. Pat has done with far less more to drag that roster forward to the best record in the game while Lamar with a much better roster has about a 66% win rate. I don’t see Pat allowing his team to be taken by some crap team? Where is his embarrassing losses? Using real stats to project a hypothetical team swap is a fruitless point.

I have given up on that and every other league award given out. They are all suspect. The hof is also a joke. Horse trading for entry is bs.

But I think pat would have scored tds and not needed the kicker. Also getting 7 instead of 3 gets you that 1 point win instead of the 3 pt loss. I don’t think it’s as hard to d up this offense as they make it. You have to be able to rush 4 with disciplined rush lanes that keep Lamar in the pocket. While at it they have to impact Henry early to disrupt his momentum. Use you pass d take away the short and intermediate middle. Also keep the short outside locked down. Only give Lamar the deep outside to throw to and he will self destruct.

So with the selection process so suspect who gives a crap who these idiots choose as mvp?

I still see to many bad plays. He should be under center more to be more effective. Also when it matters against real defenses that have competent offenses backing them he shrinks as a play maker. I am now suspect about him in bad really cold weather too.

Qb play was down across the league last yr. But since we have a lazy media class who turned it into a qb award they have to give it to that position. In all honesty hill in Miami should have won the mvp. His production was off the charts.

Diggs and Davis left. That was 70% of their production. What 70% of Lamar’s receivers left this yr?

Ok. But Allan has less talent around him this yr compared to last and he is playing far and away better. Lamar has more talent around him and is about the same. And I always do the take that guy off the roster and switch him with his peer and ask who performs better with the new cast. Lamar sure as hell doesn’t have 15 win in kc. Pat would have more than 11 here.

Did he not throw a oick in Batman’s direction with a wide open flower waving for the ball? I’ve seen that to damned often and am expecting it more in Jan. they did play down to start the ny game. That game could have been over in the 1st but wasn’t. toe? Wasn’t that pass late? Also the previous 2 plays were late and then to the wrong guy. I remember these things and do not fall for pundantry propanda.

I disagree. Firstly Lamar should not have gotten it in 23. I also still think a couple backs have more importance. On the Allen front he has done more with less talent around him. He lost his 2 best receivers. That didn’t hear. Hell Lamar got a hof back to take pressure off him. He also still misses wide open guys on reads. If I were to put mahones and Andy on the ravens I think they are undefeated.

Agree with both. Add in the pass rush being 23rd in rate it doesn’t help the dbs. the crying by ravens fans on these last 3 games was ridiculous. We are in a better place health wise than hou and Pitt. They didn’t do well there. I just see the regular choke fest in the high leverage games coming. Lamar making a bad decision but these teams being able to capitalize on it.

Noah eagle? Where do they find these play by play guys?

It’s almost time. Netflix looks good. Nice to know Lamar has his priorities straight.

https://sports.yahoo.com/2025-nfl-draft-quarterback-swaps-090000069.html Really? Yeah the dbs had issues but I think that was more scheme. We need an ot.

It’s a grab a guy mine him for any info he has on next opponent like play calls and dump him the next week. I doubt he knows anything.

Don’t forget the portal. A lot of guys have already left their teams. One school had to withdraw from a bowl bc about 50% hit the portal. The new rule on that is the portal doesn’t open until after Jan 1. on who gets into the dance I would like to see the group that picks who is in ended. No more opinions. If a team wins a game they get 15 pts. For every team the losing team beats the original winner gets 10 pts. Finally any team beaten by the original losing team that wins games gives the original winner 5 pts. I would add it strength of victory also. If you beat a school by 10 it’s an extra 5 pts. 20 gets you 10. 30 gets you 15 and so on. At the end of the season the team with the highest point value is the 1 seed and so forth. just making an example here bama w lsu 32-20 w old miss 35-21 W Arkansas 45-30 w auburn 27-20 w Texas 30-27 w tam 35-14 w Louis tech 52-14 w ou 27-24 w sc 45-14 w mizz 52-20 l ug l uf they get 150 pts from the wins and 55 from the strength of victory. so looking at lsu w old miss w msu w mizz w ug w auburn w Texas So add the wins lsu gets to bama and you get 210. Bama would get the wins from each of their losing opponents. Finally 3 levels down and we look at auburn. w mizz w Kent w vandy that gives an additional 15 points to bama.

The nflpa likes that money coming in.

They have to adjust them.

Marlon got him.

Flowers wide open for a tad but someone can’t go through progressions.

Lamar doing Lamar things.

He is great on third downs now.