the manziel trick play

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Again the refs didn't even know the rule. That is unconscionable. If West had not shifted and the play stood and they score from there and the Ravens lose it would have been a nightmare for the NFL. They have so much on their plate now but officials that don't know the rules would make mang look incompetent. I said before that I would never have brought these guys back. I would have kept the replacements forever.

[RavenMad]

Apparently it is 5. that is what Carey said.

 

I think they said it is only 5 yards within the bench area. So if the play had taken place inside the 20 it would have been legal if he had his shoulders square to the LOS.

[cravnravn]

If a team has to practice Mickey mouse plays like that then the coach knows he has a bad team.

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Yeah Cohwer sucked.

[cravnravn]

I don't recall corner running that play

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/24/chris-baker-was-ejected-for-hit-that-doesnt-violate-the-rules/

 

 

In the aftermath of Sunday’s game, we reported that Baker won’t be suspended for the infraction. On Tuesday, NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent told the Washington Post that Baker won’t be fined — and apparently shouldn’t have even been penalized for the hit that sparked a brouhaha, which included the ejection of Eagles tackle Jason Peters.

The refs don't even know the rules of the game.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/23/manziel-play-should-have-drawn-a-different-penalty/

 

Per a league source, the Browns should have been penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct, because Manziel was within five yards of the sideline in his team’s bench area at the time the ball was snapped. Specifically, Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1(l) prohibits teams from “sing entering substitutes, legally returning players, substitutes on sidelines, or withdrawn players to confuse opponents, including lingering by players leaving the field after being replaced by a substitute and an offensive player lining up or going in motion less than five yards from the sideline in front of his team’s designated bench area. However, an offensive player is permitted to line up less than five yards from the sidelines on the same side as his team’s player bench, provided he is not in front of the designated bench area.”

So Manziel could have gotten away with it (absent the illegal shift) if he’d been at least five yards from the sideline, or if he’d been within five yards of the sideline but not in the designation bench area.

Actually, Manziel would have gotten away with it, but for the illegal shift. The officials missed the call. If West hadn’t been penalized, the play would have created one of the more controversial outcomes of the weekend.

Just what I was saying Sunday.

[cravnravn]

The play never happened

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And if West had not moved the play would have. Thats the issue. The officials don't know the rules to the game. That is their only job.

[cravnravn]

Let's stick to facts, illegal motion was called end of play, I hate playing what if.

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OK I am looking at the poor officiating. Actually it should have been a 15 yd penalty instead of the 5 they got. If the play stood and they got a FG at the min the game really could have changed right there. I bet you would be screaming like bloody murder if Cle won and that play got off.

[cravnravn]

OK I am looking at the poor officiating. Actually it should have been a 15 yd penalty instead of the 5 they got. If the play stood and they got a FG at the min the game really could have changed right there. I bet you would be screaming like bloody murder if Cle won and that play got off.

 

But it never happened, so Im fine

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I can't wait for something bad to happen that violates the rules happens to watch you fume.

[cravnravn]

I can't wait for something bad to happen that violates the rules happens to watch you fume.

 

Just wait til we play Pitt Nov 2nd, I'll be heard from

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You can't predict when the officials will miss badly.

[cravnravn]

But they always somehow, like to throw something at us when we play IN PITT, Im already counting on it

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Of course they miss a call or call something that wasn't there but totally miss a rule. That is rare.

[dc.]

I am not 100% sure it was a matter of them not knowing the rule (unless they have said that)... I think this was as much a "miss" on the play. They were probably equally fooled, not paying attention to Manziel, then suddenly he's in the play and you can't throw a flag for NOT seeing where a guy came from.