yagersports Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 If Mason does not come back, how about bringing back Kelly Washington? We would have a WR corp of Boldin, Washington, Stallworth, Clayton, and a rookie most likely. You know that doesn't sound too bad. I liked Washington, thought he made some clutch catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Jerry Jones will not admit he was wrong in giving up all that to get Williams, he would get so much shit from the media he couldn't handle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Roy sticking around Here's some background on all the latest chatter on ol' Roy, with some new thoughts on the matter from the Football Outsiders down below: First, ESPNDallas.com's Tim MacMahon reported that Roy Williams is not guaranteed a starting role, despite being owed starter money: $12.9 million for 2010. MacMahon quoted Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips, who said "We are going to play the best player, no matter what" when asked if Williams could be beaten out for one of the starting receiver roles. Then Cowboys owner Jerry Jones clarified the depth chart situation, appearing to contradict Phillips. When asked if he could imagine a possible world in which Williams was not starting, Jones' response was "a big no," per MacMahon. Guess we know who wears the pants in that relationship. NFC East blogger Matt Mosley thinks Jones is sending mixed messages. Most of the buzz we've heard says Jones wouldn't be willing to eat the near-$13 million that would come with cutting Williams, but Bill Barnwell of the Football Outsiders thinks the team might still cut its losses this offseason: "Williams' tenure in Dallas has been an unmitigated disaster, with the Cowboys giving up far too much in terms of draft picks and cash to acquire and retain the former Texas star. At this point, he's the team's third receiver (behind Miles Austin and Jason Witten), and there's no reason to believe he's going to get much better. Williams is owed a guaranteed $9.5 million bonus this season, but if the Cowboys cut him, that bonus won't be applied to the cap over future seasons. They'll also save nearly $3.5 million in salary this year, a figure that will go up to nearly $33 million by the time his deal ends in 2014. How much do you think denial is worth to Jerry Jones?" - Bill Barnwell http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I know he hasn't even been on the field in the past two years, but Javon Walker was just cut by Oakland. He's a low-risk, high reward big receiver that would probably come for a minimum salary.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yagersports Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I know he hasn't even been on the field in the past two years, but Javon Walker was just cut by Oakland. He's a low-risk, high reward big receiver that would probably come for a minimum salary.... Didn't this guy have a bright future with Favre in GB at one point???? What was his deal? Didn't he become another prima donna WR headcase? If I remember correctly he did have one heck of a skill set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Didn't this guy have a bright future with Favre in GB at one point???? What was his deal? Didn't he become another prima donna WR headcase? If I remember correctly he did have one heck of a skill set. He tore his ACL and was never the same. Then there was the Darrant Williams situation that really shook him up mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpearSrai Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 He tore his ACL and was never the same. Too bad he doesn't play corner... we'd be all over that action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 If Mason does not come back, how about bringing back Kelly Washington? We would have a WR corp of Boldin, Washington, Stallworth, Clayton, and a rookie most likely.I'm still really confused about the WR situation. Clayton and Williams were tendered, but they'd still like to resign Mason and Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I'm still really confused about the WR situation. Clayton and Williams were tendered, but they'd still like to resign Mason and Washington. I don't think Washington is being considered. We could also easily cut D-Will. Between him and Clayton, one of those guys will probably end up IR eligibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpearSrai Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I don't think Washington is being considered. We couldalso easily cut D-Will. Between him and Clayton, oneof those guys will probably end up IR eligible. Way to start thinking ahead, guys.... The fact-of-the-matter is, half of our team could end up on IR by the end of the season, because most of our guys have injury concerns. But hey, maybe we'll get lucky and only 1 or 2 of our best players will be out for most of the season... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Bill Barnwell on ESPN Insider gave 10 potential, logical CAP casualties. I will put the text of the interesting names: Bernard Berrian, WR, Minnesota VikingsWhen the Vikings signed Berrian away from the Chicago Bears in 2008, the hope was he would emerge as the team's No. 1 receiver while keeping safeties honest, opening holes for Adrian Peterson in the process. He hasn't produced like a No. 1 since then, though, and with the emergence of Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin this past season, Berrian might not even start in 2010. Most of Berrian's bonuses have been paid already, but here's a chance for the team to save some genuine money: He's due $3.7 million this year, and in 2012, that rises to $6.9 million. That's too much for a slot wideout. Tommy Kelly, DT, Oakland RaidersWhen the Raiders gave Kelly a $50.5 million contract extension in 2008, it seemed incomprehensible; Oakland had one of the worst run defenses in the league, with Kelly and Warren Sapp manning the middle. Sapp retired, and Kelly got a huge contract in the hopes that he'd become, well, the next Warren Sapp. In that sense, he has been; the Raiders' rush defense is still awful, and Kelly doesn't offer enough as a pass-rusher to justify his contract. The Raiders still have a good chunk of Kelly's $18.2 million in signing bonuses (he received a second signing bonus in 2009) hanging over their future cap space, and Kelly isn't worth the $4.5 million he'll get this year as base salary. That goes up to $7 million by 2014; it shouldn't. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis ColtsNo one doubts Sanders' incredible talent, but since he signed a $37.75 million contract extension in December 2007, he has played in four of a possible 32 regular-season games. More than $7.3 million in bonuses remain on the Colts' cap over the next three years; the team is better off cutting Sanders and re-signing him to a new, cap-friendly deal. Nate Clements, CB, San Francisco 49ersWhile the 49ers' defense took a huge step forward this past season, it wasn't because of their most expensive player. Clements became the highest-paid defensive player in history when he signed an $80 million contract with San Francisco in 2007, but he lost his job last year before suffering a season-ending shoulder injury. The team still has $8.5 million of Clements' initial $22 million signing bonus left on its cap and owes him a $6 million base salary that rises steadily to nearly $11 million in 2013. The team has suggested Clements will return, but that seems short sighted. Vernon Gholston, LB, New York JetsThe former sixth overall pick is solely a special teams player in New York, having shown virtually nothing during his first two seasons as a pro. He's young -- so there's still some promise -- but it would be unprecedented for a player who started so poorly to turn into a star. With a good chunk of a $21 million signing bonus left on the Jets' cap in future seasons and little interest league-wide, Gang Green are better off cutting their losses. Roy Williams, WR, Dallas CowboysWilliams' tenure in Dallas has been an unmitigated disaster, with the Cowboys giving up far too much in terms of draft picks and cash to acquire and retain the former Texas star. At this point, he's the team's third receiver (behind Miles Austin and Jason Witten), and there's no reason to believe he's going to get much better. Williams is owed a guaranteed $9.5 million bonus this season, but if the Cowboys cut him, that bonus won't be applied to the cap over future seasons. They'll also save nearly $3.5 million in salary this year, a figure that will go up to nearly $33 million by the time his deal ends in 2014. How much do you think denial is worth to Jerry Jones? http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4976721&addata=2009_insdr_mod_front_xxx_xxx&&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story%3fid%3d4976721%26addata%3d2009_insdr_mod_front_xxx_xxx Berrian to me would seem like a solid pickup, but he may be too similar to Donte Stallworth. Gholston might be worth taking a flyer on, but if Rex couldn't get him to play, what makes you think we could? Clement might be a solid corner for us. What do you guys think of these names? Reggie Brown (who we considered trading for at the trading deadline) and T.J. Houshmandzadeh are also on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpearSrai Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Bill Barnwell on ESPN Insider gave 10 potential, logical CAP casualties. I will put the text of the interesting names: Berrian to me would seem like a solid pickup, but he may be too similar to Donte Stallworth. Gholston might be worth taking a flyer on, but if Rex couldn't get him to play, what makes you think we could? Clement might be a solid corner for us. What do you guys think of these names? Reggie Brown (who we considered trading for at the trading deadline) and T.J. Houshmandzadeh are also on this list. Most of the names are absolutely not being released. Come on... the chances of Vernon Gholston being ousted after two seasons is less than none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Moreover, Reggie Brown was traded yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Can these guys be deemed "Cap Casualties" when there is no cap. The only way these guys are released is if their current team deems them not worth their 2010 salary. If they are worried about 2011 salaries when/if a salary cap comes back then they can cut them before then but they might as well get a year out of them before that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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