Salary cap for qbs

[tsylvester]

Yes, we, along with many fans across all boards, bars, golf courses, have talked about this subject for years.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/some-nfl-owners-discussing-potential-qb-salary-cap-in-wake-of-escalating-market-per-report/

With every new quarterback contract in the NFL, more eyebrows are raised at the inevitability of record-setting dollar amounts at the position, with even inconsistent and relatively unproven signal-callers commanding historic hauls. The league is well aware of the situation, according to NFL Media, with some team owners privately discussing the possibility of a separate cap on quarterback salaries.

The reasoning, Tom Pelissero explained on "The Rich Eisen Show," is that "at some point you want quarterback numbers to not go over a certain percent of your salary cap." For reference, the Cincinnati Bengals' Joe Burrow earns an an NFL-leading average of $55 million per year on the contract extension he signed in 2023, which means his deal alone is projected to account for an average of nearly 25% of the Bengals' entire salary cap per year, leaving the remaining 75% for the rest of the roster.

Adopting "an NBA model" might be one way to better regulate those percentages, as Pelissero noted. The NBA currently has "max" and "supermax" restrictions for free-agent and long-term contracts, limiting the number of players teams can sign to a certain dollar amount, while capping the percentage of the salary cap for which maximum deals account. The idea "really hasn't gained traction" among NFL owners, however, "in part because so many teams have paid their quarterback," contributing to the position's escalating market.

Which raises another point: If an NFL team feels forced into a cost-prohibitive deal for a quarterback that has yet to warrant the club's total commitment, that team can always simply not sign said quarterback. It's easier said than done in a league where a total quarterback reset brings plenty of risk, prioritizing the unknown over the familiar. If the concern, however, is dedicating too much salary-cap space to one player, then it's up to the organization to zig when the rest of the NFL is zagging. And, hopefully, find a good alternative under center.

 

 

[oldno82]

Many are overpaid in relation to the total cap. I don't see the owners being 'together' enough to bring down prices on their own. I think some type of restriction is needed, but honestly have no idea what the best way to go about it is.

[papasmurfbell]

If there was a QB cap then KC would win every yr Mahomes is healthy.  

[tsylvester]

Na, there is a reason the Pats, who went on a nice run, still could not win very Super Bowl with Brady.

The cap would not be a limit on what they can make, just an exception to the team salary cap.

[oldno82]

Rather than have a complete exception to the cap, maybe they could allow a certain amount of the money to be subject to it and then anything above it would count against the qb cap. So if a player wants say $60 mil a year, the first 40mil counts against the team cap and the remaining 20mil would go towards the separate qb cap.

 

[papasmurfbell]

3 hours ago, tsylvester said:

Na, there is a reason the Pats, who went on a nice run, still could not win very Super Bowl with Brady.

The cap would not be a limit on what they can make, just an exception to the team salary cap.

If mahomes has it where teams are basically even other than at qb he wins.  
 

I want base salaries and then universal bonuses.  After a few yrs if it shows some teams holding talent and wins then a cap can go into place for after the season.  Make them get rid of talent that put them over the number.  No way the union would do it.  But running backs would be on board bc the can get paid day 1 even if undrafted.  

[tsylvester]

Take last year, sure I know I am playing ifs and buts, but if the Ravens focus more on running the ball, no way Kc wins that game.

Last year's Ravens and Chiefs teams were as equal as two teams can be, talent wise.

Now, look at what San Fran, Miami, etc, teams winning a lot but on cheap rookie deals for their qbs.

That is essentially what the owners want now, cap wise.

If you can have Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes, etc on cap cheap deals, then you can better build around them.

The Bengals are dealing with that now, having to chose between wise outs so that they can fix their defense, their offensive line.

Miami will soon face that, even KC would love to have that, their line is horrible as we saw first hand.

[papasmurfbell]

But under this idea that would not  have been the chiefs team. Tyreek would still be on the team probably.  They would not have to have let Sneed go now.  With this KC could fix their OL.

[tsylvester]

True on Snead, maybe on Hill. He was a headache for them, more so than the money

[papasmurfbell]

Hill was def about the cash.  He was given up a yr before pat signed.

[tsylvester]

Yeah he and a few other receivers are like those runningbacks who get stronger as the carries in the game add up. For them, it is targets, legit targets, the more they get, the harder they play.

The less they get though, they pout and disappear