oldno82

My sentiments exactly!

I've been reading a lot in the media about how the Ravens 'need' to add a veteran receiver. I don't see why, at least at this point. We've got Surratt and the other WR we drafted who's name escapes me and I think they ought to have a chance along with Dez Walker for a place on the depth chart. Sure they're young but I really don't want to see a continuation of the Harbaugh philosophy that by default a veteran (especially an aged one) is always better than giving a young guy a chance. Before you know it, our young receivers are in the 3rd year of their rookie contract with only one year to go just as they are hitting their stride. Lets give them an opportunity sooner.

I thought we were talking about Flowers?

Geez you can't ask for much more than back to back 1000+ yd seasons the last 2 years...and he's young and wants to stay here.

I read that about Flowers. It would be great if they are able to reach an extension with him.

Well it won't hurt to have him. I guess the Bears aren't interested in making a deal. Or we don't want to pay what they're asking.

I remember Lee Evans drop of an easy game winning TD pass as the Ravens lost to the Pats in the AFC Championship Game. The only receivers that spring to mind for Joe were a Derrick Mason toward the end of his career, and Qadry Ismail and Dennis Pitta. Decent but he had nobody like Flowers. And with one exception, he didn't have a killer OC either: Since the start of the 2012 season, Brady has had one offensive coordinator and Ryan has had two. In comparison, Flacco has had five offensive coordinators over the past five seasons -- the most for an NFL starting quarterback over that span. This isn't to suggest Flacco would've enjoyed the same success as Brady and Ryan if he had more cohesion with play-callers. He's just had more challenges with the ever-changing voice in his ear. While Brady has had continuity with Josh McDaniels and Ryan has developed a comfort level with Dirk Koetter and Kyle Shanahan, Flacco has gone from Cam Cameron to Jim Caldwell to Gary Kubiak to Marc Trestman to Marty Mornhinweg. Kubiak was the only real good one out of that deal.

The quality of his receivers didn't help him any. He Wasn't a 'great' quarterback but he was good enough if he had had more talent around him. And don't forget the quality of the OC's he had in those days.

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Joe belongs there easily in my opinion...he was a good QB here and won us a Super Bowl with that fantastic playoff run.

I agree with your assessment and I was happy with that pick.

Nonetheless, having 2 first round picks in the draft is usually going to be a boon to any team, especially one like the Ravens. I give credit to Bellichek for making the recommendation for Ray though. And, Bill was the coach when the Browns went 5-11 that last season he was their coach.

Yeah, I was including him as one of the 4 receivers we drafted...two of them are TE's and reports have been positive about them so far.

Yes...I'm excited about this draft class too, especially Vega and the 4 receivers. We have to remember that the year we got Ogden and Ray we had two first round picks and were picking high because we stunk the year before. I also think the running back pick in this year's draft may turn out to be a sleeper. Concerned about O-line meshing but the new line coach has a good reputation and coaching could well have been the downfall for us last year as well as Lamar's injuries. We are looking good, so far, in the skill positions so it will be interesting to watch how the whole team evolves. It's good our opening schedule is a little soft because it will give the team time to develop the new additions and draft picks. We'll start to see how things are going in just a couple more weeks. Seems to me like it's been a long off-season and I'm ready for some football!

Possibly...we'll see what happens with his draft this year and if/when/how they work out an extension with Lamar. I'd like to see him succeed for sure.

Well, I, for one, will hate it when Steve does leave. He created a mighty organization here for many years. Oz gets a lot of credit as well. EDC is a work in progress. This may be a make or break year for him.

I don't think Steve will hold out for much longer if the Ravens have another off-year season again this year, what with all the headaches involved with extending Lamar, a souring fan base, and decreased field success. He looked to me like he was getting a little tired of all the problems last year. Unfortunately, he's been a damned good owner and if he sells he will be missed. Also, I don't think Bmore has any potential local owners with that kind of money so the new owner would probably be an out-of-towner or even a foreign born owner. And, that of course means a potential franchise move.

Geez....the price of franchises is now in the stratosphere!

No doubt the big kid has a ton of potential. We'll see how that translates in camp. I think he's gonna be the real deal and I was glad we got to draft him. The line play of Stanley, Simpson, Bullock/Pinter, Vega, and Rosengarten will be the big factor on offense this year. Lamar needs time to throw and Henry needs holes to barrel through.

I dunno about your dunno...I think Aiyuk is a train wreck that has already happened. As you said before, I don't know who would want to sign such an obviously unstable player.

Yep I heard that too. He's supposed to be ready for camp.

I remember that song vividly! I told you I was old. Happy 4th!

I like Zrebiec and he usually has good information. But I too would like to see how the beginning of camp goes. Bradbury is already 29 years old and I don't know what the Bears would considerable reasonable in a trade. Besides Bullock, we've also got Pinter who deserves a good look.

A real tragedy...I don't know how you recover emotionally from that.

If he can't produce, I don't believe Minter and Doyle will play him.