oldno82

Joe belongs there easily in my opinion...he was a good QB here and won us a Super Bowl with that fantastic playoff run.

I agree with your assessment and I was happy with that pick.

Nonetheless, having 2 first round picks in the draft is usually going to be a boon to any team, especially one like the Ravens. I give credit to Bellichek for making the recommendation for Ray though. And, Bill was the coach when the Browns went 5-11 that last season he was their coach.

Yeah, I was including him as one of the 4 receivers we drafted...two of them are TE's and reports have been positive about them so far.

Yes...I'm excited about this draft class too, especially Vega and the 4 receivers. We have to remember that the year we got Ogden and Ray we had two first round picks and were picking high because we stunk the year before. I also think the running back pick in this year's draft may turn out to be a sleeper. Concerned about O-line meshing but the new line coach has a good reputation and coaching could well have been the downfall for us last year as well as Lamar's injuries. We are looking good, so far, in the skill positions so it will be interesting to watch how the whole team evolves. It's good our opening schedule is a little soft because it will give the team time to develop the new additions and draft picks. We'll start to see how things are going in just a couple more weeks. Seems to me like it's been a long off-season and I'm ready for some football!

Possibly...we'll see what happens with his draft this year and if/when/how they work out an extension with Lamar. I'd like to see him succeed for sure.

Well, I, for one, will hate it when Steve does leave. He created a mighty organization here for many years. Oz gets a lot of credit as well. EDC is a work in progress. This may be a make or break year for him.

I don't think Steve will hold out for much longer if the Ravens have another off-year season again this year, what with all the headaches involved with extending Lamar, a souring fan base, and decreased field success. He looked to me like he was getting a little tired of all the problems last year. Unfortunately, he's been a damned good owner and if he sells he will be missed. Also, I don't think Bmore has any potential local owners with that kind of money so the new owner would probably be an out-of-towner or even a foreign born owner. And, that of course means a potential franchise move.

Geez....the price of franchises is now in the stratosphere!

No doubt the big kid has a ton of potential. We'll see how that translates in camp. I think he's gonna be the real deal and I was glad we got to draft him. The line play of Stanley, Simpson, Bullock/Pinter, Vega, and Rosengarten will be the big factor on offense this year. Lamar needs time to throw and Henry needs holes to barrel through.

I dunno about your dunno...I think Aiyuk is a train wreck that has already happened. As you said before, I don't know who would want to sign such an obviously unstable player.

Yep I heard that too. He's supposed to be ready for camp.

I remember that song vividly! I told you I was old. Happy 4th!

I like Zrebiec and he usually has good information. But I too would like to see how the beginning of camp goes. Bradbury is already 29 years old and I don't know what the Bears would considerable reasonable in a trade. Besides Bullock, we've also got Pinter who deserves a good look.

A real tragedy...I don't know how you recover emotionally from that.

If he can't produce, I don't believe Minter and Doyle will play him.

There's a lot talent on the team. Question is how does creeping age affect Hendrickson, Henry, Andrews, Stanley, etc.? These guys have been defying Father Time and here''s to hoping they have one or two good seasons left. This year might be the last year a Super Bowl is attainable with the current group. Next year (this year?) Jackson could be in his last year with the team given the cap situation and that there is no extension so far this year. So it's hard to tell if the glass is half empty or half full. The front office, i.e., Decosta, has a lot of work to do between now and the end of camp. So 8 weeks to go for him to produce extensions for Flowers, Jackson, and to decide the Center position.

A new role coming for Simpson?:

Two positive evaluations for sure. The players have bought in to the new coaching.

That's freaking unbelieveable! It's disgraceful they would charge that much for a publicly funded stadium. I can see why the fans are pissed.

And the beat goes on: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49199010/brandon-aiyuk-blames-ex-agent-push-leaves-49ers-continues

As of right now you have to say the coaching staff has been on the mark with setting the right attitude for the players. They all seem hyped up from veterans to rookies. But of course, the real tests are coming...training camp, preseason games, and then the regular season. It all could fall apart quickly if they have key injuries or don't play well when things are for real. At this point, though, you couldn't ask for a better launch.

No doubt we could use a big guy in the center of the line but it doesn't sound too promising that it will be Okoye.

I like Lamar and I think he's a good quarterback. I just have a gut feeling he wants a record breaking, team roster busting contract. We'll see, but you are right...next year the Ravens have to determine if it's time to move on from him and pick the next franchise quarterback from a good class of candidates.

I tell ya, I shudder to think what Lamar is going to think he's worth to the Ravens when negotiations really get rolling.