Defensive end Charles Omenihu says teams figured out Lamar

[tsylvester]

I respect this dude's opinion, but I think he got his noggin scrambled a few times. I do agree, to stop Lamar or slow him down, five man rush, 4 at first then the 5th on a delay if Lamar holds the ball.

However, Lamar's arm strength is just as good as Josh's, he too can make any throw on the field as fsr as distance and pep on the ball.

He and Josh are about even when it comes to turnovers, and to be perfectly honest, the 5 man rush, 0 blitz was tried for years, and when the Ravens had a plan for it under Monken, Lamar won an MVP for beating it. It worked last year because of the terrible line play and the fact that Lamar was hurt most of the year.

 

Omenihu was asked to weigh in on facing Bills quarterback Josh Allen and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson. He didn’t hesitate before saying he thought Allen would win a Super Bowl first if the two players switched teams and that Allen’s habit of turning the ball over isn’t enough of a drawback to make up for the book that defenses have put together on stopping Jackson.

“I don’t think the league has truly figured [Allen] out,” Omenihu said on the Speakeasy podcast. “With Lamar, honestly, you bring a five-man rush on him and collapse that pocket, he’s drifting backwards and, unfortunately, he might make a play that isn’t going to be the best play for the Ravens. With Josh, he’s going to drift backwards, run around, and he’s so hard to tackle. He’s a large human being, hard to get down, he can make every throw. Every throw from no matter where he’s at. His arm strength is unbelievable. I don’t think Lamar has that big amount of arm strength like Josh does. Like I said, I think you’ve figured out Lamar. You come after him, you close all the lanes, you five-man rush him and you cover his guys, and I think you get it done. It’s been shown.”

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/charles-omenihu-league-has-figured-out-lamar-jackson-hasnt-figured-out-josh-allen

 

[oldno82]

6 minutes ago, tsylvester said:

He and Josh are about even when it comes to turnovers, and to be perfectly honest, the 5 man rush, 0 blitz was tried for years, and when the Ravens had a plan for it under Monken, Lamar won an MVP for beating it. It worked last year because of the terrible line play and the fact that Lamar was hurt most of the year.

 

Bingo!

[papasmurfbell]

He is basically saying what I have in the past.  He didn’t mention the poor accuracy outside the numbers part though.  Lamar is a lot slower now and it’s getting easier to get to him.  I expect less from Lamar this yr over last.  If this line does not see major upgrades it will be a lot less.

[oldno82]

Well he was hurting in a lot of spots last year and he has shown he can beat that defense given adequate protection. While I think he's on the downside of his career as a running quarterback, his ceiling for pocket passing can't be assessed yet.

[papasmurfbell]

Without the run threat I don’t think he is good in the pocket.  There are some teams who totally lack the personnel to rush him correctly so he can exploit those teams.  We will not have a settled ol this yr.  There will be a min of one glaring weakness on the ol.  So there goes that pocket.

[tsylvester]

14 hours ago, papasmurfbell said:

He is basically saying what I have in the past.  He didn’t mention the poor accuracy outside the numbers part though.  Lamar is a lot slower now and it’s getting easier to get to him.  I expect less from Lamar this yr over last.  If this line does not see major upgrades it will be a lot less.

We will agree to disagree l, as we have in the past. Injuries, I believe, slowed him down last year. His hesitation to run, for ? reason, also slowed him down.

It is my opinion that he has not run full speed since the season before.

I think this year, with a healthier body and a better view of how he needs to play, he will be back to lightening 

[papasmurfbell]

The season will tell.