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See Billick............

If the Stiller miss the playoffs again, this will be the fourth time in his 9 year career. Yes, he has a Super Bowl win, an AFC championship appearance, but they are 5-4 in the playoffs under him.... makes ya wonder I know the Stillers hate changing coaches and he is a good one, but.............

Shocking, the defense finished the game instead of costing a win. Depth? Eh, maybe, flash in the pans happen every year and while the Ravens played hard (possibly saving Harb's job), the Stillers simply came out flat, over confident and their secondary has been an issue all year. Still, the receivers made some gains all season. Aiken has earned a real contract, 3- 5 years. He has really turned into a very good possession receiver. I look forward to watching him grow with this team next year. Other than that, who knows at this point. The running backs are certainly settled, Allen is a force and West has done some nice things as well. Defense, other than the line, there is no rue heart of the defense who can make plays consistently. He should be found in the draft. Sharise Wright was what most expected, good one play, great another, good one game, not so good another game. He has yet, in his short career, to play consistently over the course of a season, that is why he is on the Ravens....... Maybe he is turn the corner on his team, maybe not... This team still has no safeties, no real inside backers. Smith is really showing his age, y'all know how I feel about Mosely and Orr is a good tackler, but like Mosely, he can't cover, neither plays well in zone either.... The Ravens thought they had some depth going into this season and while no team can expect to win with so many players being on IR, they vastly over rated players going into this season. I don't want to hear about how many game were close, this team is far from dangerous even when healthy.

We saw the bad Mallet at the end of the first half and in the middle of the 2nd half, as the announcers said, poor UUUUU! But he made two big throws that made the win possible one to UUUUUUUUU, the other to Givens.... He will be an expensive back up next year, if he wants to stay.... But, who cares, the Stillers were swept, and maybe knocked out of the playoffs.... great Christmas present....

League wide the game is terrible, I can only take so much of it now. add in all the commercial breaks now adays, and no way I watch a terrible game....

Call me what you want, I may peak in a few times, but no, I would not go to this game were I paid to go, nor watch this game. I expect a game similiar if not worse than the Seattle game....

I love Dotson, not as a first round pick love though. The guy knows how to get open against any coverage, runs precise routes and in a timely manner. He has big strong hands and fights for the ball when needed. A hands catcher with deceiving speed, quick of foot. I don't see him as a number one at the next level, but as an excellent 2 who will make big plays in the NFL. Yes, Corey Coleman, a smaller guy who just gets it. He out runs people when he is just standing still. I look forward to seeing his 40 times and cone drills to see just how quick he actually is, man can he jitter bug. If they get him, Camp would be gone. He can take over the slot, the end around runs where he is very dangerous. He can return punts with very dependable hands and judgement. More dependable than Clayton, more durable than Cooks, but very similar to him. I would take Coleman over either of those two. Like Dotson, not a first round pick from the Ravens stand point, but if either of those guys are there in the second and the Ravens haven't gone wideout in the first, I would take one of those two there. For me, a draft where the first two picks are Ramsey/Hargraves in 1 and Dotson/Coleman in 2 would be a great day, a win for sure. Don't get too hard on Hargreaves. I told you earlier this year in the college forum, Bama has done it again with a receiver. Ridely is going to be the best receiver in college football over the next two years. He is smooth, fast, quick, great hands & body control. He will be better than Cooper, if he had a decent quarterback, he would have the stats to show he is almost better than him now. Ridley is special good. Add to that Hargreaves was under so much pressure in that game what with no, litterally, no offense, watching his team fall a part after their leader got suspended. I think he was pressing too hard, a good lesson for him. He too can play safety, he will be a great player in the NFL.

Yes, I mentioned him on another thread, this one was about those who are playing now. They want him to return punts because of his quickness, his "wiggle", ability to make people, mostly, the first guy miss. But as we all know now, he is just snake bit.

You & I are both high on Treadwell, he is just what the Ravens need. They have speed with the rookie and Givens if he stays. They have quickness is Camp can stay healthy. But Tredwell is that big body, great hands wide out who can run any route well, and muscle for the 50-50 ball They currently don't have that receiver, aside from the emerging Aiken. As many of solid defensive line man there are in the draft and the Ravens ability to get free agent, low round picks at that position to play very well, using the first round pick on one to me, would not be an option, nor a need. I would love to get Ramsey, they need a safety as well as corners and he can play both very well. He would be a great first round pick. Great find.

Well, they have receivers they need to see which ones stay & which ones go. You can't do that with out game tape & with out a quarterback who can throw the ball. We know the rookie stays, Aiken stays, he just needs to bulk up a bit, get stronger. His attitude in catching the ball is fantastic; a Boldin like receiver. But who else? butler is Harb's favorite, but hanging onto the ball, running proper routes, staying on his route are issues. Marlon Brown, sadly, he is likely gone given how little playing time he has gotten as the season went on. Givens??? Terrible routes, but speed & hands are solid. Mathews? Is he just a fill in or will his toughness and good hands help him stick around? Dan Brown, does he stay? tall, big body, great hands but no speed and we all know white man can't jump....

You would be wise to start them. The west coast team traveling won't help the Ravens this time. I think 15 pts fantasy wise, is very likely for their defense.

I start Max, either way this team is getting shut out, blown out, but at least Max would make it funny as he ran backward for the seahawks 10th safety in the game...

Tucker blew another game.....

Butler has issues hanging onto the ball. His routes are not that great, but yes, he gives great effort, has some speed and is tough. He is a back up at best, 4th or 5th on normal teams....

I know the players want grass, but this is the dumbest thing I have heard from the team since they built that stupid stadium. They are going to "try and use grass, bring in fake sun light and see if it works".... If not, then go back to artificial grass? We know they can't grow grass there because of the way the stadium is built. Resodding every few months only leads to more injuries, why? Because players slip on the new sod, it gives way because it doesn't have time to root in properly. The idiot who designed the stadium, and the stadium authority who approved the design are why they can't grow grass there, they were warned, told, erged to turn the stadium, but nooooooo............ A waste of money that I am sure will be passed on to the fans...

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/12/04/nfl-salary-cap-2016-season-projected-rise That is not a hole lot, but should be plenty enough for the Ravens to menuver.

Yeah, I don't understand this one, unless no one else wanted the job. This is a great recruiting area, tv time is fabulous with the Big 10, playing against top tier talent. With all the experienced coaches out there, they go for him?

He did what? Aiken has been developing each year. He has been force fed passes since Smith sr went down. That does not qualify as "developing" anyone; it is up to the player to perform. He is turning into a tough receiver ala Boldin. But his routes still stink and his hands are still suspect. Tresman has done nothing but help defenses build stats because of obvious and terrible play calls.....

A complete team loss, even Tucker is playing him self into a low contract. Those calling for Joe to go, need only look to Green Bay and Aaron Rogers, how has he done the past 3 weeks. How about Manning more picks than completions and he was benched? even Brady, two fumbles, one lost, a pick(should have been two).... Maybe now, finally, the front office and coaching staff wakes up and stops this; we are close thinking, and gets some real plans done to fix this team. Get rid of Dumervil, while it would cause $4 mil in dead money,they will save $2 mil in cap space. Yippie, has has had some good sack numbers the past few years. But none in the play offs, none in the 4th quarter of games when this team needs a stop. He is terrible against the run, so ditch him. That last play Max, quarterback falls down, all the defenders stand around like the play had been called dead. Then Dume strikes...... I don't care what they have to do, but get some one in here who knows how to evaluate and teach receivers..... Ditch both coordinators, we know all about Pees.... Yesterday proved Tresman has to go. One of the fastes men in the NFL and they don't use him to spread the field, open the middle, to go deep but on one play? They force feed a receiver who would be fourth best on any other team trying to turn him into a Boldin type receiver, which leads to three dropped passes, one ended up being picked off. He can't find the ball on deep throws, let a lone fight for the ball. This mantra of throwing it deep into double coverage to draw a penalty has to stop; that is not on Joe, is it a mandate from the coaches. I am not sure who Harbs was fighting with on the sideline, one of the coaches, but some major changes have to to be made and if Harbs doesn't like it, maybe he needs to go. He has not learned anything about game management since he came here. I like him, I think he should stay, but I can see reasons to let him go too.... This is a two-three year rebuild. We have an offensive & defensive line, a quarterback, at least two runningbacks, now fix the rest.

They are getting pressure with the front seven, with the defensive line, the issue is, these guys tire out and can't get the same, consistant pressure later in games. It was much the same last year, even with Suggs and Dumervil, both who disappeared in the 2n half of games and in entire games later in the season. This team, for a few years now, has lost their wind late in games/late in seasons; conditioning.....

Not likely, he was always nicked up in college as well.....

2 things, one just for curiosity sake... do you have permission to use the NFL logo? 2, no chance they take Nkemdiche. The Ravens have enough money tied up in the rush ends and they have a solid, young core group for the defensive line..... I also question the statement of him having the most uip side of any draft eligable defensive player. He often takes plays off, mostly because he is doubt teams a bunch, but is there more to that fact? There are a number of others who have far more upside and your number 2 selection is one of them. Jalen Ramsey can play two positions, his great instincts are why, his athletism takes him over the top. I am not sure he goes #2, maybe top 5, most likely top 8... we shall see.... But he is a better prospect than Robert is at this point.... Yes, it is just my opinion and this is all just for discusion.... No way Boyd is the first wide out taken, no way he goes top five, only the Browns would make that dumb (sorry) of a move and well, you have them taking the linebacker from ND. Ok, you had me rolling with Cardell Jones going top 10, seriously, not even the Texans are that dumb. Limited game exposure, even when he has played, it is a simplified play sheet, reading just half the field, with far better athletes on his side of the ball vs his compition.... Myer has found this out to be very, very true, thus, his benching of the four game wonder.... Scott Mitchel comes to mind.... Ooops that was more than 2 things, my bad,.....

What a game it was.... I just don't get these defenses struggling with the tripple option! It is simply assignment football more than against any other type of offense.... Defensive tackle takes the back, end/lb takes the quarterback (and drills him each & every time) and the corner/ ss lineback gets the pitch man...... Back side corner and safety stay home to defend the pass..... Shoot, I grew up playing against the tripple option.....

However, you can't pay a qb, wr, and running back top dollar.... As Papa said, you can plug & place backs most of the time. Fournett is the real deal, when he gets blocking, , he reminds me of Eddie George with the way he gates and runs so up right. But no, I would not draft him in the first two rounds, too many other glaring needs.....

Yeah, why not, they have given every corner back & safety in the known universe a chance, may as well try more runningbacks............