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Up to this point, as papa said, he has done nothing and would have done nothing if not for the public and media outcry over the Ray Rice tape. He should have had programs set up to get many, many players help and instead he has lorded over the games, walking lines as if he were king. You are right, it is not his fault, but doing nothing but wavering in the face of public outcry is only showing players and non-players that they need to be smarted when they want to comitt a crime and not get it caught on tape or just hide the body. Currently, with now three players being paid to not play, he is showing them just fight it out in the courts, you may not get to play, but you sure will get your pay. As I have said on the Goody thread, the NFL is like any other business, they can hire & fire whom ever they want, for what ever reason, save the discriminatory reason. If the proof is there, suspend them for a lengthy time, not two games, not paid leave until you can figure out what to say to the media and general public. The media screamed how there were no females in high positions in the league offices. What does he do? Hire them, no black females, what does he do? Hire one all in the span of a few days... hmmmm Beer supporters are not going to give up on the NFL, they too are just postering for the lemmings. 1 more thing, these latest paid leaves are now opening the door for every player suspened including Aaron Hernadez, who has yet to be found guilty; due process huh? psss

Another one arrested, but put on paid leave. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jonathan-dwyer-arrested-suspicion-of-aggravated-assault-arizona-cardinals-091714? But wait, for good cause, their seems to be a "time issue"... Did the NFl wake a sleeping giant, women making false claims? July? Wait, he admits the assualts happened, it "just wasn't him"....... Guess we have another NFL player who will be paid not to play, until the justice system rules.... Oh my, what a troubling time we are in,

Things just got worse for Goody.... Player A (P) beats a child, admits to beating said child, gets placed on Exemption list. Player B (Hardy, har, har) get convicted of abusing a woman, twice, and threatnening her life (her beating was far, far worse than what Rice did) and he too gets put on the Exemption list. Players on said list are paid full salary and OOOOOOOOOOOO- ONLY the Comish, see Goody, can put said players on said list....... Rice has quite the case against Good & Plenty... Remember, he just wanted to; "get it right"....

Max, Max, Max...... giving only the redzone stats? So far in two games the defense is giving, through the rest of the field, 4.0 yards per carry, on 22 attempts per game, 8th best in the NFL. QB' s are completing 62% of their passes for an 82 qbr, 10th best in the league after two games. Six passes over 20, one of those over 40. If there was a stat for missed tackles I could find, the Ravens would be in the tops for, most per game. Side note, the Browns have given up 11 over 20, 9- 20+, 2 over 40, so big plays should be there to be made, especialy since they have only 5 sacks in 2 games. Nothing earth shattering. They are giving up 5 yards per carry on the ground on an average of 28 carries per game. Should be a hard fought game.

Here is a list of those known to be reinstatd as of now... Welker is currently working out with the Broncos. http://nfltraderumors.co/list-of-players-who-will-be-reinstated-once-agreement-on-drug-policy-is-in-place/

I agree if there is not evidence. However, this is not a court room. If a player blows over the limit, there is your proof, if they, the player wants further proof, let the police do a blood test. Other wise, they should be suspended, they are already guilty. In Rice's case, proof of his guilt from a company stand point, was the video and his confession to the league & team. Suspend him right away. Hardy, the proof is there, photos, voice mail, text, suspend him right away. AP, proof is there in pictures and his admission he was the one who put those marks there; suspend him right away. Why does it need to be proven in court? This is a company, they have the right to fire for ANY REASON, this line is in every hiring contract for any job. I am tired of the excuse: the tester spoiled the sample, it was second hand smoke when you blood levels are way over the limit, when you have an ounce or two of pot in your car.

He has been placed on the NFL exempt status. Relieved from all team activities until te court case is settled. If you get a chance, read the press release by the Vikes, sent out two hours ago, around 4 am; there you will find your laugh for the day.....

It all depends on his level of pot. All players who were under the new limit and had a 4 game suspension or lower, will be returned to active status. (I wonder if they will get retro active pay).... As Grubber said, Gordon will go down to 10 games, not wiped out though, even though his limit will be well below the new standard, because 1) he is a repeat violator 2) lied and did not take responsibility for his actions, actually blamed the NFL... Hill, may get dropped down to two games if the math holds, or they could just cut his in half and be 3 game suspension. Since he too is a repat offender and we do not know the levels he had in his system, he might only have two games taken off...

eh, sounds like he was spanking the kid and the child, hit his head on the car seat while struggling to get away. Side note, one hotel suspended their limited sponsorship of the Vikes, Radison, who only sponsor the banner behind their interviews.

He has been reinstated by the team. According to Mort, a team can only deactive a player for punative reasons, 4 times per season. AP has seen a pschologist and says he understands there are other ways to punish a child. Vikes GM says (yes the GM, not the head coach, cough, cough Biscut) says they will wait for due process.... My only question is, why wait? He has admitted to doing this, why are you, Rick Speilman, not responible for passing judgement on this matter, why do you have to wait to make a decison on suspension, or not, for the courts?

They said the same about Vick, he is still making much money and on a team. Have you see what Hardy was convicted of? Seen the police report, heard the 911 calls? Even after his conviction, and likely for a second time when his jury trial is over, he will still have a team to play for and he did far, far worse than Ray.

Rice to appeal his suspension, and he will likely win based just on what we know. He is not going out quietly, nor should he. I dispie what he did, but dispise even more, people who go back on their word. If Vick got a job back in the NFl, for another $100 mil too boot, you can bet Rice will as well.

Funny, not, ESPN is mute on the Goody subject. Last week, as late as friday, Mike &Mike were all over the Goody investigation. Today? They are singing the tune the NFl was last week; focus on the person who comitted the crime, not the investigation nor Goody... The NFL has very long arms....

So Hardy was inactivated for this week's, I mean for TODAY's game. What made Jerry change his mind at THE LAST SECOND, of the SECOND week of games? Maybe, and likely, Goody got to him, letting him know that the outcry has to stop and it starts with the Panthers.... Guess it was a good thing they won without their pass rusher.... hmmmmmmmmm

That depends on the level in his system. The only reason Gordon is likely to have his suspension reduced is because he had well below the new level, .30 or something. Note, reduced, not wiped out. Welker and the other guy had two game suspensions, reducing them is either to one, which they had already missed, or no games, which they will get reimbursed for the game check/checks they lost.

We know the players, by majority want him gone. By default, the union as well. Now that the new drug policy was backed out of the NFL, after the NFl sent it to the union for a vote and it was approved by the players, me thinks the union and players have tobe realy ticked off with him. Two players still playing who did far worse to a woman and Rice did, the league's golden boy, AP, now arrested for what will likely be a plea deal with probation, how long will the NFl drag this out? He has admitted he did that to his son and while it was a spanking gone too far, it leaves a black eye, the NFl is running out of eyes to blacken, though blackened crapie is pretty good with a Biscut, they have to suspend him right? Or will they simply fine him? If they suspend him, will the union fight for him? This season is going to be "fun" for the league.

Publically, 4, two of whom Goody turned a blind eye to when they, "strayed" away from the sheild of excellance...........

An NFl player is no different than the average Joe. I've seen bigger guys working at Home Depot...

Hold your horses, 4 field goals....

I saw a clip showing Goody being asked if a player had to be convicted to be disciplined from a few years ago, Goody said no. So I wonder what his excuse is for not coming down hard on the two "golden children for how to treat women".... For that matter, where is NOW or any othe org speaking up about those two? Oh that is right, like Jessie & Al, they only speak out when the subject matter is all over the news.... It should be interesting to see what, if anything he does with AP. Oh and I don't like them using the term child abuse, that term isn't even used in the charging documents.... Head line grabbers suck.

This is a slippery slope, religious freedom, parental discipling. My parents hit me once, and yes, I deserved it. My aunt would grab our ear, drag us to the kitchen and smack our hands with a wooden spoon; she was strong. Me, spanked my daughter once in almost 23 years. Spanking is not everyone's choice, but it is a choice, legal we can chose. When using a switch, one does not have to swing hard to leave a welt. One tiny little nub on the switch can cause a cut, which looks like is the case here, with a cut on one end of the welt. Yes, my friends and I used to play-who is tougher- one thing we would do is smack each other with switches.... If he goes for religious freedom, he best exexplain punishing the child in anger because no person not angry would leave so many welts all over a child's body, and God is clear, never punish when angry. Nonetheless, I don't think he is a child abuser based just on this.

Why max? One has to be a fan of something, to discuss it? There are a lot of subjects I am not a "fan" of, but do enjoy conversing with others on them.

A little more-

The hits (pardon the pun) keep coming for the NFL. http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/274946031.html

Maybe he was one of the 4 from the meeting, it isn't as if there was 100 people in that meeting.. Something smells fishy here between Ozzie and the team with this case. His version so different than Biscut's, then Biscut calls a kitchen meeting and it wasn't to go over recipes for hot cross buns.