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Nor do I, and I have to say, I am so glad I don't. Oh and papa, he did mention your favorite explayer, Stallworth, but only that he spoke to the players about his off the field issues, not that Biscut signed him even though Donte got drunk and killed some one. So I guess hitting a women is worse than killing some one. And the head lines leading into the presser, words from the Biscut were; "the fans need to hear our side". This fan did not hear anyting directed to the fans, only, and in your words directly, words for the media to address them about the article they wrote. aaaa pssst hack, hack.

And I am convinced, Ozzie is one of the sources for the OTL article.

What a complete joke, seriously. You spend the time preparing an article of your own, instead of rading it, you hand it to the each reporter in the room, give them five minutes to read it & digest it, then take questions. All just to stick your nose up at the media because OTL didn't give you guys enough time to respond to their article before they ran with it? Really? Then dodge questions, point the finger at Ray, his lawyer and friends, once again.... Ok, we get it Biscut, you are untouchable and that is all this press conference was; you showing the media you are untouchable. Not answering questions the fans have, the fans who are a little more aware of the game than the pom-pom crowd who only watch on Sunday as a ack ground noise or when the team is in the playoffs. Rice will never play for us again, ever, but we will hire him because, people change, deserve a second chance. Why does he deserve a second chance five years down the road and not five days down the road? Oh and as far as I am concerned, your integrity is gone with me, not that it matters.

Still no number one receiver, Smith, T, looks like he has slowed down quite a bit. Outside of the TE's and Smith, S, no one can get open or catch the ball.... Oh and the safeties still suck, linebackers are still late or caught up in traffic, more than not. Cleveland was giving up 5 yards per befor ethis game, so not sure they can run the rock or not. Certainly not in short yardage. Same team so far.........

Or if they DID cover things up, then what? Odd isn't it, that only two people knew about the exact text between Biscut and Rice, yet the text comes out......Oh it comes out after the jersey buy back........ Oh there is an electronic paper trail from the Jersey PD to the Ravens office, and back again. Well after the arrest so as to show it was not Ray calling them to say he was arrested, but rather, the securty supervisor calling the PD about the recording. If Ozzie, a well respcted man in your organization tells you that Ray was completely honest about what was on the tape, (remeber, Biscut said in his canned interview, he never spoke with Rice directly), why would you not take said well respected employees word? Why would you turn around and not only make Rice a liar, but said stellar employee? Too many things Max, no matter what they say tomorrow, too many things. Yes, they screwed up in cutting Rice, now again in making him out to be a liar just to cover their idiocy.

aaaaaand the Ravens did that for Rice? As Rooney said today; "one mistake should not cost a good man a career." guess who he was talking about..... Yes, Ray, we know very well about many of the cover ups that went into your career here in Baltimore, or is that Woodlawn?

Max, let me help ya here

between the jersey give back and the text from Biscut, Rice is not a happy camper and my bet, is singing like a canery to the media behind the scenes. Tomorrow should be intersting to see what Biscut told his ilk to say. What ever it is, you can bet, for the average fan they won't even know anything went on and are happy the Ravens won, yippie... For the more die hard fan, it will be enough, they will, like Max, think the best, after all, Rice is the one who hit Janay, hit, not beat her, let us remember that part. The question is, what happens with the casual fan? Do they walk away? How many of the die hard fans walk away, or at least, stop buying the merchandise, just keep what they have, attend one or more less games per year, dvr the games to get around the ratings......?

Remember, before the story broke, Biscut called two mandatory circle the wagon meetings, so I have little doubt, what ever they plan to say next week, was done earlier this week, they just got beat tothe punch by ESPN, thus, the Byrne statement.

Yep, this is the "perfect" out of Ozzie. He is a player first, before management, always has been. I just can't see him sticking it out through the lies, mistruths, etc, that makes a player look worse than he truly is, so I can see Ozzie "retiring", maybe after the season, maybe sooner.

Based on what we, as outsiders have seen by their actions, their own mispeaks (if you listen closely) I will take the report over the spin of the Ravens. The report just makes more sense.

CYA, CYA, please, please believe us, the media is lying, the media is lying, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, there is a wolf in the sheep's pen, a wolf in the sheep's pen.... http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/09/20/ravens-execs-fans-need-to-hear-our-side-of-the-story/ This should be rich, spin, spin spin....... Transparent? I think not, one of you very own Execs contradicted your very own Owner. Since when is telling the truth, the honest, entire truth "new territory? Unless, Mister Byrne, new territory is telling the truth? Unlike some/many, sorry, if it is not the entire truth, it is a lie. If it is the truth but used to deceive people, it is a lie. Transparent? Come on, sure, many fans are nnaive not this pony, I know there are things teams normally cannot disclose, but not in this case. All it would have taken was the truth, a six game suspension, and everyone would be happy, even the NOW groups. But go ahead, most of your fan base has the wool pulled over their eyes, others just don't care and just want to watch football, no matter how many times you raise ticket prices, cconcession prices, paraphernalia prices, etc. This lemming is getting off the bus, you keep driving, they will follow.......

Just a guess on my part, but after all of this, when the news comes out about this cover up, and the national medai gets a hold of it, the fury will be huge. I know several owers have done just as worse, but they were able to keep it hush-hush. Not this story, that video is going to change the NFL and lead to owners being held just as responsible as they hold their players. Smith has the leverage now, why do you think the presser was 15 minutes late? They were trying to get Smith there and either it was impossible or he flat refused. I believe the later. The owners want an out lause to save cap space, the only way the NFLPA is going along with that is by using the words of the owners, via Goody- we hold our selves to a higher standard than the players- against them; thus now setting up penalties for owners like Biscut, Wolf, Danny Boy, Jerryboy, etc. Finning them will not be enough for the masses nor for the players; so draft picks and cap space is almost a must, it is the only way to truly penalize the owner.

This was starting to simmer down on ESPN, now, after the Goody presser, it's caught fire again. I would be surprised if Bill couched his second answer, I did not see any video interuption on the deadspin feed, but since they asked him again, it would seem he did change the tone of his answer. Both answers can be true, but I am of the mind his first one is the right one. Frankly it matters not right? Goody did tell the saints, no knowing is not an excuse and hammered them. His turn.

Word is, Goody and the owners will use this to build an escape clause, part of which already exists, that lets them out of the contacts with no cap ramifications, cap relief. This could go two ways. They get it, or the players fight and we end up with a trike/lock out. Smith has the upper hand now, publicly, especially with the cover up that went on and Goody's neck being on the line. Dwyer was smart or truly is mentally ill. If not ill, but claiming he wanted to die, the NFl had to put him on the non football illness list, which means they can cut him, but they have to settle with him; so either way he will get paid, unlike Hard and AP, who can be cut at any time. The Vikes cut Jerome Simpson, with one game left in his suspension, so it is clear, they are tired of it.... It should be interesting to see what the Dolphins do with their golden boy, who had his suspension over turn only to get popped again, and now is back on a 4 game suspension... idiot.

He told the reporter in his interview when asked if he thought the league had seen the inside video, No, he did not believe so. Another lie or is outside the line wrong? It is one thing to not want to see the worst, quite another to ignore the facts, and then work so hard to cover them up. Who here, knowing there was a recording of what happened inside the elevator, did not know it would come out and make matters worse? No one; we all knew it would come out and that the truth would be revealed. So either Biscut is truly ignorant, having no fore thought at all, or he is not being honest. Since there was such a huge cover up, it has to be he lied to everyone, in writing, on camera. He will keep the franchise, other owners have done worse and still own teams. But the players will suffer as they likely lose draft picks, cap space.

Again, I say, you believe that crap? After he was told point blank from his security people, that what went on inside the elevator was horrible, discusting, and he sees Janay not moving outside the elevator. Yes, we all only want to hear what we want to believe after all of that, sure. I know you haven't comented on the "other stuff", but it all ties into Biscut was telling a tale in that interview.

Um, this goes far deeper than what happened before the Steelers game, this is compounded on top of the crap last week and speaks to trust of the organization, now that the truth, the real truth is coming out. They will sign players who fail not one drug test, not even two, but three... Who hasn't done anything for any community he was in, but they cut tail & run from one mistake by a great community guy, a great teammate, a player who did anyting the org asked him. What does that say to the rest of the team? Lesser things have sunk many a good teams.

Wait, Max, you can't blame Biscut for covering up the truth? You believe his story that "he only wanted to belive the least possible reason she was unconscous"? You can't blame the Biscut for cutting Ray, putting all the blame on him and then, out of the back door, offering him a job? He would hire Ray to "lead young players" but not to play for the team? A team suspension would have been fine, cutting him in September, knowing what they knew back in Feb, sits well with you and "you can't blame Biscut!?! Really?

After this outside the lines report, the Goody presser, I just can't see the Ravens coming out ready to play, I'll take the Browns and hope I am wrong, Browns plus 10 for $100 Marv....

There had better be some discipline handed down to the Ravens, Biscut, after this report comes out as well as for Goody. Cove ups have been going on too long, time to crush them now, since they are "getting serius" with "domestic abuse, sexual abuse, child abuse, drugs and alcohol".....

Take the Browns in this game, this will nto sit well with the players....

Fans have spoken? How many of you would return the jersey of a player no longer on the team, and get a free jersey of a current player or a voucher for something else? Me thinks this has more to do with money than it does with what happened. How many will return season tickets when they find out what Biscut has done? Would they if they got their money back too?

I wonder if certain people are fond of me making fun of Biscut now? Maybe some ham to go with the gravy?

Shouldn't be a shock from what we have seen from Biscut; two "secret meetings" with all personell in the front office- get the stories straight....