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he didn't take the fight any where Pap,. They were going to the elevator. Yes, argueing on the way, nonetheless, going there anyway. The arguement escalated inside, yes, but it isn't as if he clearly said to his drunk self; better not hit her out here, wait till I get to the elevator........

According to the AP< per ESPN, a law enforement official confirms, they sent a copy of the elevator video to an NFL exec, IN APRIL. So some one's head is going to roll...... stay tuned, this aint over till the germans bomb pearl harbour. edit to add- there is a voice mail confirmation from a female at NFl offices saying they got the video and yes, it was disturbing..... oooooo

The first, at the front of the elevator, was a slap, minsing words I know, but bear with me here.... The second was in response to her spitting on him. No, I am not excussing him, not my intent at all. Simply, and I have some experience here having a sister who was abused, a brother accused numerous times of abusing his wife, fake reports, am trying to say there is good reason to believe he never has beaten her before. Food for thought, is all. I understand that most men, once a woman beater always a woman beater, but there are some who only did it once and usually, alcohol was involved and instigation by the woman.

There is no evidence he has done this before. In fact, since there was alchol invloved and that he did not beat her, simply (sorry, wrong word I know) struck her once, it is very likely he has never done this before. If that were to be true, then she is not a battered woman, but a woman who loves her husband and know this was out of the ordinary for her. Time will tell and I hope I am right.

According to ESPN & their Insiders show... no word on to who nor for whom....

You do understand that it isn't about the cutting of him, nor the suspension, but their lack of forethought, their inability to see that when the video would come, there would be major backlash, based on the original video and Ray's statements to them. Thus, if the Ravens were going to cut him, they should have done it back in Feb, not this week. If the NFL ws going to BREAK THEIR OWN RULES and suspend him indefinately, they should have done it back in Feb, not this weekl. That is what has me and many, many others who know football, who know the rules, so ticked off. Goody, when he made the choice to suspend Rice for 2 games, claimed it was the max he could give him. The Ravens, when the suspension was announced, claimed they were sticking by Ray and would bend to the league for discipline. If 2 games was the max under the rules, how is it, Goody can now circumvent said rules and on Ray's first offense, suspend him, not six months as the rules state, but indefinately? How can the Ravens cut him, when they were going to stand by him? Oh, that is right, all because what he did was caught on tape, not because of what he did. Proof? The tape backs up almost exactly as Ray & Janay outlined. Don't buy into their, the league nor the Ravens, excuse that the two watered down their confession. Seeing her unconscous, seeing Ray act like it was no big deal, on camera plus their version is pretty easy to see what transpired in the elevator, with out seeing the tape. Knowing there was a tape, and not thinking; hmmm, intoday's society, that tape will come out, is ludicrous if they expect any sensible adult to buy the excuse that they couldn't get the tape or just took the law's and league's decision as justice.... So go ahead, your choice to keep giving your money to the people who will do what ever they wish and treat you like a non-thinking person.

Taking his jersey off the market, replacing it with anothr for fns. Papa Johns offering pizza for a Rice jersey, what his college is doing. One would think he is a baby killer. Sad, quite sad.. All Biscut and Goody had to say was; we made the moves to suspend him, to cut him because of how the public would wouldreact when they saw the tape. At least that would be the truth................ Now, the message is; we did not suspend him/cut him because of what he did, rather, because what he did was caught on tape.

I've left a small tip a time or two because the service was terrible. Normally I over tip if the service is good to excellant... Maybe he had poor service.

Really? I understand before he accepted the plea and the case closed, his lawyer would not give you the tape. But after,right after, he certainly would since there would be no legal issues at that point.... Sorry, mook.........

Sorry, all I hear is what one would hear when an adult is talking in a Charlie Brown cartoon; blah, blah, blah.... http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Steve-Bisciottis-Letter-To-Ravens-Fans/ca17b5f3-674f-4fbe-ac4c-d47927eb04ba

Personally, I think he originally should ave gotten a year, send a message; even if they didn't see the tape, they had his confession, they had part of the tape, it was clear what happened. Now, by back tracking, I sure hope the union does their lazy part and fights for 1) Wes Welker and Josh Gordon to be reinstated and 2) fights for Ray given the points I outlined; he already paid THEIR price. Oh and I doubt I will watch the game thursday, not that it will make one ioda difference. But just as baseball chased me away, a person who as a young boy used to keep game books as games were played, who played through highschool, the NFl is chasing me away. I doubt I will miss seeing the game thursday, I am sure there is a college game on one of the chanels....

I have to get this off my chest, no better place than here. Why is it Ray has to pay not once, not twice, but three times for making one mistake? 1) being suspended two games, 2) being cut from the team, 3) being kicked out of the league essentially. A mistake he made while drunk, a mistake he has done everything thus far to make up for? Has shown contrition has done everything his wife has asked, the courts have ordered, the team and league have mandated? Why? Why? When the Owner, GM, President and Coach of this supposedly great organization said, after he told them exactly what happened, stood in front of the media and said; "we don't give up on our players, we stand behind Ray, he made a mistake." The video proves what he told them, yet now, when their bottom line MIGHT be affected, they give up on him? This is what a great organization does? Goes back on their word? This is not about a player declining and needing to dump salary. This is about perceived media and fan scrutiny and saving money on their bottom line. This on top of a supposedly great league whose comish said to another player caught with a drug test; "You should have known". So the comish who said he holds him self and the owners above the players, to a higher standard; "Goody, you DID KNOW!" Yeah, keep sinking your money into a crooked league, rooting for a hypocritical& owner all of who DID KNOW, only now do they give up on good people, a good person who made a mistake. A big one, yes, thankfully she didn't get killed when she fell and hit her head, many a necks have been broken that way. Meanwhile, several other players who DID KILL some one, were or will be back in the league in short order. psssst, end rant

Or when the team either lied or is completely incompetent...........

Fans by & large are sheepales, the majority of them will get over this as soon as the team gets a win, others, a bit longer. Afterall, look at boxing fans who fork out hundreds to watch Maywether fight and how many times has he gone to jail, been sued for abusing women? Fans don't care....they just react.

So, the Ravens say what Rice described to them back in Feb was exactly as the video showed. They felt they could not get the video for legal and moral issues, so they never saught it out....... So, why is it they released him now and not in Feb? idiots.......... & spen stick around buddy....

For the people saying Ray is a devil, Janay is speaking up for him on her instagram account. One time offense does not make one a monster. Food for thought since most of you are drinker. The cowboys defensive tackle, Brent? got 10 games suspension for drunk driving and killing some when he crashed. Isn't that worse than nocking out a women who ended up with little to no injuries? Shouldn't drunk driving have the same penalties? or worse?

I agree, no matter what actually went down with the video, he looks very bad either way. Goody needs to go,

No, she knew ot should have known there was video cameras in public places, so the casino can do as they wish with those tapes. Unfortunately, domestic violence victims are treated as evidence, not as humbeings.

Knowing the lengths the league goes to vet players before the draft, how deep they went into the Mike Vick scandal, the Ray Lewis situation, I do not believe the league when they claim they did not see the vid before it was released.

Fox is now reporting that "sources" claim representatives from the NFL went to the casino to view the tape, but never requested a copy...... http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ray-rice-assault-nfl-never-asked-for-tape-baltimore-ravens-rb-punching-fiancee-090914

How about the posecutors who actually charged Janay!

Wow, something must have happened both with him and along the defensive line. Maybe an injury during practice, maybe an off the field issue that is about to come to light.......... This team is not making very sound, or clear decisions this year.

Oh you will be safe as long as you ignore the insults, just like we had to do during the Ray Lewis incident. Easier said than done though, even for us old timers with a pep in our step....

This will only go way when the NFL & the Ravens explain why either they viewed the tape before yesterday and did nothing or why they did not try & view the tape. Only then will this go way. I think for certain, this team is going to be completely distracted a & flat thursday, and get destroyed by Pit. I hope I am wrong.... and, there will be protesters all around the stadium, some inside the stadium this week and maybe the week after, hough the 10 day layoff will help some. The timing was perfect froma news stand point. This week would have been Ray's last week of suspension- 2 games in one week. With a 10 day layoff, the best thing to do is let it out there the first week of the NFL season when it will be the most distracting, casue the most "trouble" for the league.

I can answer the first two. TMZ, according to them, and they are not the most reputable source, went to the casino and asked for the tape- they were gven it by the casino, not a rogue employee, according to them. 2) No, the casino closing had nothing to do with it, they have not said why they waited until now, but I have a good suspicion.