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I am pretty sure this was all part of Ozzie's master plan when he allowed Savage to GM the Browns :lol:

I am not sure either of those is realistic. Most scouts are actually projecting Jenkins as a safety. I would rather have Vontae Davis. As for Robinson, he is going to be a hot ticket on the market this offseason. The Texans have already said they are going to make every effort to re-sign him. Robinson is not going to be cheap.

Brown deserves to be paid like a guard. Lets just hope that we can get a deal done with Suggs by Thursday. I am hopeful, it sounds like Suggs really wants to come back. If we can sign Suggs long-term, I am sure that tag will go on Brown.

Ah... I think I can deal with all that! :lol: I never liked Ocean City anyways :P

You really think it will affect us in our lifetime?

Dwan Edwards has already been re-signed to a one-year deal.

If Ray leaves, I am sure that we will bring Scott back. FWI, information on the Ray situation: http://wnst.net/wordpress/drewforrester/20...-zone-with-ray/

Hate to see C-mac go, he was a great Raven. However, we need that $8 million. We are definitely going to be an active team this offseason. I really believe we will retain Ray, Suggs, Brown, and possibly Leonhard. Certainly have the CAP room to do so. I doubt we will go after any big name guys (Asomugha, Robinson, Bryant, or Housmandzadeh), but I do think we will get a few guys that will definitely make this team better.

You damn right! That is the answer I wanted to hear! :lol: My idea of global warming is buying mountain property in West Virginia and in 50 years I will have a prime beach front property.

No one is being hard on Heap, but your second point is exactly why we would draft a tight-end. We are potentially thin at the position because our current group of tight ends have a history of durability problems. Drafting Pettigrew does not mean we have to get rid of Heap. Having both would be solid. Heap has a lot of football for only being 28 years-old, I am not how much more he has left in the tank. I really hope that Heap has a resurgence year next season after an offseason working with Flacco.

You should be thankful for global warming then! :P

There is a lot of solid, young talent at CB in the free agent market. There are a few potential Fabian Washington-type guys out there. I would absolutely love Vontae Davis if he fell, but that seems unlikely. D.J. Moore would be a good fit for use because he is an extremely fluent athlete who can run with receivers in man coverage and is solid in run support. Moore also has great instincts and is a ballhawk with his solid ball skills (6 INTs in each of the past two seasons). In fact, he played receiver for Vandy as well (7 catches, 143 yards and 2 TDs in 2008). Moore is also an extemely hard worker, of course he is intelligent coming from Vandy, and according to ESPN, is apart of the French Honors Society Moore sounds like a Raven. Alphonso Smith on the other hand seems like a Cover-2 corner. While he is strong and possesses great speed, he is undersized and not very fluent in his hips. Basically, I am not worried about obtaining quality depth at corner. There is plenty of opportunity out there in free agency and the draft. Wide receiver is the position I am worried about. Reggie Williams and Nate Washington are mid-range guys I would like us to take a look at. In the draft, I would target DHB and Hakeem Nicks.

I was discussing this in the draft forum. Pettigrew would certainly be a great value at 26. He isn't a downfield threat, but he is an athletic, reliable pass catching tight end who plays with a mean streak. Even more importantly, his blocking and strength are considered elite for the tight end position. Something that I am sure our guys will value very highly. However, Pettigrew does have attitude and off-field issues, which could go against us drafting him.

What kind of person does it make me if I really don't care whether global warming is real or not?

SI compared Harvin to Reggie Bush, and that is a comparison in which I agree with. Bush is a player who has been unable so far to utilize his speed as a consistent weapon in the NFL. Harvin, like Bush did, does not really have an established position coming out of college. I do not believe that Harvin has #1 receiver potential. Harvin's success will be based upon what type of system he is drafted into and how creative his offensive coordinator is in using his talent. Nicks reminds me of a young Anquan Boldin. Strong, physical receiver, runs great routes, strong hands with good YAC ability. I would say he is worth a late first round pick. I am leaning towards DHB though.

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Granted you are not being sarcastic, I would agree with you. Like Randy coming out of college, DHB has a tall, sturdy build with long striding track speed. More importantly, DHB possesses Randy's ability to hit his second gear in a blink of an eye. Playing wise, DHB likes to work on the perimeter, does a great job of fighting for balls at their highest point, and is very dangerous off of a screen. DHB looks an awful lot like Moss when he catches a ball in the open field. Because of his strides, you do not realize how much ground he is covering. Now, the big difference between Moss and DHB. Moss at the line of scrimmage was and is nearly impossible to jam. The questions with DHB will be his ability to fight the press. If DHB can do this, odds are he will be a great receiver. Lets be honest though, Moss is a Hall of Fame talent. It is highly doubtful that DHB will be as good of a receiver as Moss, but DHB certainly has potential to be a Pro Bowl receiver.

DHB is a very high risk pick, but he is just so darn intriguing with his pure speed and size. Just having his speed on the field opens up the passing game. Just send him deep or pass him a screen (he was very dangerous on the screens at UMD). Lets just wait for the combine, I have a feeling DHB is really going to put up eye-popping numbers, making him even more of a risk. The guy has raw speed comparable to Randy Moss coming out of college.

Here is the difference with Brown than Pashos and Weaver. Pashos and Weaver were average to above-average players that good great contracts. Brown is arguably a top three center in the league, he is worth top dollar where as Pashos and Weaver were not. There is certainly more flexibility with a counter offer for Brown because he is worth it. I do agree though, Ozzie should come out right away with Brown and offer him a contract to make him a top paid center to show how much we value him.

Thanks for the link max. Something interesting SI noted about Harvin: This draft seems stacked at WR. Britt, DHB, Nicks, and Harvin are all guys that we could take. I am currently undecided on these guys, they all seem good in their own way.

Good, I was getting tired of Brett and his crying. Who wants to bet that the Jets are going to draft Josh Freeman because Rex thinks he is going to be the next Joe Flacco?

Getting Pettigrew does not mean we have to get rid of Heap. Is Quinn really 100%? If he is, then great. Wilcox and Heap both have durability issues. So much so for Wilcox that he has flirted with the 'R' word. My point is that while we may be okay for next season, who knows about the season after that. Wilcox is getting older, and Heap's body has taken a lot punishment for only being 28 years-old. So, if Pettigrew is there at #26, he would most certainly be the best value. Do you take him? BTW, that YouTube user DraftParty has put up highlights of over eighty 2009 draft prospects. Pretty interesting stuff.

While WR is a dire need for this team, this team has become a little thin at tight-end. Todd Heap is no longer a consistent receiving threat, and with his durability problems, who knows how much longer he will be with the team. Mel Kiper, Jr. currently ranks Pettigrew as the fourteenth best prospect in the draft, but I have seen plenty of mock drafts with Pettigrew dropping. Pettigrew possesses only average speed, but is a natural, fluid athlete who has strong, soft hands. Pettigrew has a massive frame (6'5", 257 pounds) and is very difficult to take down in the open field. He knows how to use his frame when making catches, but most importantly Pettigrew is considered an elite blocker at the tight-end position. Pettigrew plays with a mean streak. The downside, other than his average speed, is that he has discipline problems. Pettigrew will be 24 years-old when the draft comes, has pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors in his time at OSU, and plays undisciplined at times. I am not sure how Ozzie and Harbaugh will look at this, but if he is there at 26, and there is no other value pick there (such as Vontae Davis, Tyson Jackson, or Jeremy Maclin), then Pettigrew may be too good of a talent to pass on. http://www.nflfans.com/x/2009/showplayer.p...don%20Pettigrew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWke-myLQw From the YouTube video you get a sense of how good his hands are, and how easy and fluid he makes catching the ball look. If last draft was any indication, wide receivers will drop. Crabtree is a lock to go in the top half of the draft, but depending how late the next guy (Maclin) is taken could decide if guys like Nick, DHB, Britt, or Harvin fall to the second round. Of course, trading back like we did last year might be a very good option provided no one of good value is there at 26. This draft is a little top heavy, loses some value in the 20s, then picks up back again with some solid depth projected to be available in the early second round.

I would be shocked. Both Griffey and Cal those hard working, live, breathe and eat baseball guys who grew up around the game their whole lives. Both guys had fathers who played professionally and grew up in baseball families around the game. I would definitely be shocked.

Is anyone happy in Bengal-land?