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Yep, agreed and if not already a long, foregone conclusion we move on w/o Lamar and OC. But who and when? As many have pointed out, it may take 1-2 years to transition to a new system although a strong running game, OL and defense will keep us competitive. Knowing that, I'd be fine with "biting the bullet", acquiring a bridge QB this year, and drafting the franchise guy in '24. My two cents.....

Max, Bingo. Thank you. Im spent too!

Yep, we out played, out passed, outgained, outran and out possessed the Bengals - did everything but make THE WINNING PLAY. That falls on somebody's shoulders. Got to fix that crap.

Thats great Max! We can laugh at each other's crazy thoughts but still remain civil. Thats why I love this site !

Tsy, its a head scratcher for sure. Im already picturing the next QB in purple next year. With a new OC, QB and WR corps and the rest of the team in-tact, I'm ready for the next face of the franchise (even if it takes 2-3 years).

Things just aren't adding up here. How are we/he just learning this ? Also, how does a 24-25 superstar athlete approaching (if not already) in the prime of his career, have so many physical, medical issues (COVID, back, knee)? Geez. Cmon down, Anthony Brown !

Other than Trent Dilfer's half season run (2000), Bazooka Joe's 4-5 year run, and Lamars historic season (2019), haven't we only witnessed ca. 6 years of dynamic QB play in the franchise's 25 + yr. history. That's about 20% of our history. My point - our D and running attack has kept us competitive - won 2 SBs and numerous Division titles - and largely w/o strong franchise QB play. Maybe we keep holding out too much for this "franchise" QB when we just need a solid QB to complement our perennially strong D and running attack. Guess I'm a half full glass guy. I trust our FO will snatch one up in the offseason.

Max, if #3 is legit and plays out, I'm highly intrigued by the off-season possibilities. I know it belongs in the off-season comments, but I'm looking at life after Lamar and can't wait to see how the FO will fill the void. Even with our dismal WR track record and OC woes, I cannot but help feel optimism with a FA QB (to bridge us in 23- maybe a Derek Carr (just saying:) and drafting a young QB. With an improving D, strong OL, nice cadre of RBs, and presumption for a new OC, the off-season can't get here soon enough.

Sweet. Thanks for the memories Max !

Yep, stacking the D! Relative to the D, we just need to fortify the DL (assuming Calais departure), strengthen CB opposite Humph (assuming Peters is gone), acquire/develop a big-time pass rusher,and acquire/develop a safety alongside Marcus Williams. Do those four things, we are talking D!

Agreed and great synopsis Max ! It's about the LOS, wrapping up Burrow, and pounding the rock down their throats - ALL 4 QUARTERS.

Yep, Lamar (if he even shows up) need to play his butt off and D needs to wrap up Burrow and make him pay. Of if Brown plays again maybe he learned something from yesterday's "scrimmage". I personally think the Bengals stunk yesterday and expect a much better game from them Sunday night.

Lets hope in 2023-24 the anemic, dysfunctional offense is in the rear-view mirror. Ill be watching tonight's game with hope of things to come and absolutely ZERO expectations for Sunday night's game in Cincy. Afterwards, my mind is programmed for new team and or offensive leadership, QB, philosophy. If it happens, great; If not, another .500 year is in order. I'll remain hopeful and as Andy Dufrain (Shawshank) said, "hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

That stinks. I know he’s resting but need these guys - Gus and JK - getting reps together even if just a few reps today. I guess it won’t matter - we’ll get waxed today anyway

Yep, watching Joshua Dobbs (Tenn) right now in Jax and it’s life or death for them. And he’s balling !

I’m wondering why we don’t start Anthony Brown tomorrow. Lamar’s out, Huntley is dinged up and Brown seems ready to go. What in the heck have we got to lose? Give the kid the keys and let ‘em go.

Yep, ready to move on from Lamar. The sooner we land a legit franchise QB - this year, next year - the better. Dont know we can swing it,but would love to see Max Duggan in purple in 23! If not, we sign a FA as a bridge QB. Either way, we have the foundation - OL and RBs in place - just need the OC and QB.

I’d take Commanders Taylor Heineke or Eagles Minshew as a bridge QB whether we drafted someone or not in 23.

We may need to pick up a FA QB in 23 and draft a franchise guy in 24. I trust Roquan wants to sign regardless of Lamar. He is and or can become the center piece of the D.

TSY, IDK how you can replace GRO w/o dismissing Harbs and have a successful team moving forward. I think it's a package deal. Unfortunately, though, I'm not sure the Biscuit will cut Harbs loose and is far more likely to force his hand in replacing Roman. I don't see, after the dust settles (post FA/Draft), this team at least finding a new OC and a legit, franchise QB for the 2023 season.

This team is fizzling; reminds me of the end of the Billick era in circa 2006-7. The message is stale, there's little team character, chemistry and or substance. I think the right package - coach, OC & QB - can and should improve this teams lot. We might slide a year (2 yrs max), but Id rather do that then watch a very slow, painful bleed job.

We might have a better chance in the playoff game that follows. After getting taken out by the woodshed on Sunday, the Bungles might be unmotivated to whoop us a 2nd time.

We’ve got 2 chances in the game - slim and none - and we know who left town

All the above and nothings going to change until he changes made it to top. The good news is if we bring in a good leader and fortify our talent we can be back in legitimate contention in the next year or two. If Jacksonville can do what they did with that got awful situation a year or two ago there’s hope for everyone.