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Crav, it could be the Royal Farms cup of joe

That's a good starter list though I think Forsett has something left in the tank- at least 1 more year.

Well, they sure as hell better run on Sunday. Miami is 32nd in run defense.

Ouch !

Yepper ! It's all about playing as a team - having character, chemistry and consistency. Look at the Carolina Panthers - aside from Cam, Keuchley, Norman, they have a bunch of good, not great players. But they are ballers and play as a team. Maybe that's the direction our team takes down the road. We've got a few youngsters to build around.

The running game- w/Allen and West - was good and could be very good better if given the chance. We abandon the run too often, too soon. With Schaub's propensity for pick 6's, they should have tried running the ball on that last drive. Allen & West were just getting in a groove. As Max eluded, a 50/50 run/pass mix is needed for here on out for Schaub. Jernigan and Williams look stout on the DL. Throw in a few others- say Urban- and add a pass rusher, via FA and draft, we might have something up front. Then focus on the LBs and secondary.

Well that's 2 games we should have lost - 1st one in Pitt. Dang, now we are 4-7 instead of 2-9. Come on boys !

1st NFL game - former UVA Cavalier !

Interesting strategy. Maybe we go that route and pile up draft picks

I like Bosa too. From here on, its Losa for Bosa So, Papa who would you pick in the 1st round ?

Max, and that sums up the mediocrity of today's NFL. Aside from a few teams, there's a razor thin line separating the playoff from non playoff teams. If Houston, KC and the Skins are current playoff teams, well that's all you need to know.

I think Forsett, 30 + and all, still has something left on the wheels. Remember, as a career backup, he didn't play much until a few years ago. He should have a good year or two left in the tank- enough to play and "coach up" the young bucks .

Crav, They've got Wa Wa' s in FLA ? Cool, love their Joe !

Schaub had a good practice ? That and a buck wiill get you a cup of joe at wa wa !

The maturity and work ethic issues aside - and make no mistake, those are damn big issues - maybe West just needs a change of scenery. He isn't the first guy and won't be the last where a new team and system did him some good. Let's see where this thing goes. Worst case, he blows his chance and gets cut. We still have Forsett, Allen, Taliefero for next year.

Happy thanksgiving to all ! I hope everyone has a peaceful, joyous day. And better days ahead for Raven Nation Go Ravens !

Yeah, Renner is fine for eval, too

Yep. Opposing Ds should crowd the box. But at least we'll see what we got. Worse case, Schaub has a meltdown and we go to Clausen. The worst thing that can happen is we lose out and go 3-13 and grab a top 3 pick. As long as we play hard and show signs of life, I'm cool with that. Every dog has its day - you are seeing it on full display. Personally, I'm in 2016, pre FA and draft mode

Tbird, I like your optimism and spirit. I do think if we draft EXTREMELY well and acquire a few WR playmakers, via FA, we have a chance to start turning this ship around next year. However, Ozzie and Co's whiffs in the last few drafts are now showing up and others - Pitt and Cincy- are arguably putting more talent on the field, esp on offense. Also, the FO has got to successfully rework Joe's, Jimmy Smith's contracts (among others) and free up $ to acquire some talent like we did when we picked up Boldin, etc. I hear what youre saying about a quick turnaround but its only going to happen with both an excellent draft and timely, effective FA acquisitions. Ozzie & Co need to hit homers on both fronts to turn this ship around.

I like Allen too. And who knows, Terrence West and Allen could become a nice tandem for the future. Mentored by Forsett, this could be a nice backfileld. As for Schaub, who the hell knows what we will get. Maybe he will pleasantly surprise or throw a couple of pick 6's . I guess we'll know come Monsay night .

T Bird, I generally agree but am wondering what Best Player Available really is and whether Ozzie still has "it" . Since about the 08 draft (Flacco and Rice), who have we drafted that's become a star or all-pro (aside from CJ Mosely) ? The cupboard is awfully empty and this team has fallen way behind the likes of Cincy and others. I know we ve drafted low every year but so have the Steelers and Cincy and both their rosters are loaded with good, young talent esp at WR. I can't say the same about our team. Can you ?

Spen, I am on the verge of bailing on the season - watching, NFL network, Sirius radio, the whole deal. The NFL product has become so compromised this year- officiating, poor play, mediocre teams, etc. And with the Ravens having an epically horrific season and now Flacco out, I am about done with the team this year. Unfortunately, I don't see the NFL product getting any better- at least in the short term, maybe never. Its almost going the route of the NBA which is brutal to watch (unless you need a power nap on Xmas day). Teamwise, I am holding out hope that, given this years epically UNLUCKY year, that somehow, some way, and (maybe the grace of God), this organization turns it around in a year or two.. They did it once before, after BBs meltdown season 8-9 years ago, and won another SB. With the watered down, parity driven league, and a few lucky breaks, maybe we will hoist the Lombardy in the next 3-5 years again,

And Max, that's maybe where it needs to start - D. The D has lost its swagger and smash mouth identity. Even though we won Sunday, the Rams beat the livin crap out of us - the way we used to. Not that we don't have gaping holes on the offensive side, but its been embarrassing watching this team get pushed around, esp in the LB and secondary, for the past several years. Cal me old school, but Id like to see the return of smashmouth D, starting in 2016. And yes, D wins championships !

If we go D In round 1, wouldn't mind picking this kid Bosa from OSU. Plays with a high motor and reminds many of JJ Watt.

Guess we'll see what he's got now that Forsett is out. Could be a good thing - Forsett, Buck West - in next year's backfield.