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Halfway through the season about 400 yds. On par for when he was a Raven and SF is falling apart.

I remember him making them. He was gloating that he beat the Ravens. He sought out the media to make the comment.

agreed

Really not only does Joe need to rework his deal he should take a pay cut. That is the only way he shoudl stay. He has proven he can't carry the team and should adjust his pay to be just a cog.

But it is dealing with the problem one time. If you wait for 2017 then you have to deal with the problem twice.

Because if they decide to keep him then they will have to find 10+ players on the roster to get under the cap. Then in 2017 they will have to do that again. It would be Joe and a bunch of slap nuts. So I am wondering who is wearing #5 here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkRHdHZpN_E http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000439714/Flacco-intercepted-in-the-endzone http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Ravens-Joe-Flacco-intercepted-by-Raiders-Neiko-Thorpe/718f4d1b-1d18-4cec-979b-a4a4b5ab60d1

In what part when I brought up Q did I mention rings? The topic of the thread is about production. Seems you want to change the idea of the topic to suit yourself.

If Joe doesn't renegotiate then it is a position that is not secured. It would be a full rebuild so you would be using the time to clean the cap as well.

Remember in hindsight how we found out that Grbac got all his yds in trash time when there was nothing to be accomplished? I think Joe is putting up empty yds. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2015&seasonType=REG 3 picks total. Jimmy Smith week 3 was the last one.

Sure whatever. It was to much.

http://www.nfl.com/player/anquanboldin/2505587/careerstats He never had 1000 yds here and has each yr in SF. Seems his production has gone up after leaving.

Q has still be solid in SF. Honestly he has played well much longer than I would have thought. Looking at him shows me that playing with Joe hurt his production.

You go the draft and find a cheaper younger alternative. Bingo. Joe was overpaid. He was paid huge money on one thing wins. If you look more closely at his stats he was less intrinsic to those wins than many want to believe. He was riding a running game and a solid D. He won most of the time when his skills were used the least. Joe is a game mang and $120 is way to much for a game mang. No you just make the conscious decision not to chase the idiot owners down the rabbit hole.

That is how I would assess it.

Jones was done 2 yrs ago. Torrey didn't just start maturing suddenly. The Ravens were right to let each walk. They should not have given JJ that deal last yr.

So say Gurley breaks down after 4 yrs? Was it worth using a 4th round pick for him? Look at Morris in DC or Charles. Huge production for almost nothing in pick price.

With RB's being a dime a dozen and having so many holes you would fill one hole with a RB in th efirst round?

Some sucker team will draft him in the fist.

So how does that work when Joe is in NJ and Joe is taking the phone calls? I said Romo's deal was crap. Kapp's deal is not that bad. I also thought Dalton's deal was stupid. The 9ers made a really smart deal. They can escape it and leave Kapp on the hook.

He is always to busy not thinking with his head.

They looked really good tonight.

But again Manning, Brady, or Rodgers throws the ball a ton and they win at a really high clip also. Joe is paid commensurate or better than them so that should be expected os him as well.

http://russellstreetreport.com/2015/11/05/lombardis-way/what-is-joe-flacco-worth/

So Joe throwing the ball to the wrong place had nothing to do with it. Not always. Sometimes Cam just called tons of pass plays. Joe couldn't carry the team in those games.

But I look at his attempts and when they are low the Ravens are likely winners and when they are high the Ravens are liely losers. That says that when Joe is in the position to carry the team a loss is the most likely outcome. Go back to 4 completions for a win. Any slap nuts could have won that game.