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Yeah but if you are a red shirt soph who is told by a shady agent that you will be at least a 3rd rounder and he has played pretty good for Clemson how does he know he wont get drafted? There is no honest evaluation of players to tell them to stay or go.

Really? You are the first person I have ever heard of that said there are these player evals for the NFL. Please cite it I am quite interested to read more on how they work.

So you think Rogan has something there?

That is not what I have been talking about. I was making the case how agents, the NFL, the NCAA, and to a degree the draft prognosticators do unsophisticated athletes no service by pushing the could happen situation.

Lots of people think the grades are stupid. Really they are. They mean nothing until 3 yrs from now when you can give a real grade. When the Ravens drafted Kindle and Cody it was thought of as a brilliant move. Now it is seen as foolish.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/14/these-stunning-photos-show-what-iconic-u-s-locations-look-like-after-12-feet-of-sea-level-rise/ It certainly will make things more interesting seeing them swim the bases. I wonder how long lady liberty will stand with wet feet.

No you can have an opinion. One just can't say that a person is wrong for not existing that way. Say it isn't for you but don't demonize.

The problem is it isn't cool.

If you say so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_b5ZdIklx4 Gotta agree with Stephen A and Skip.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-rookie-minicamp-0515-20140514,0,969094.story As a senior last season, Hurst was projected by draft analysts to land in either the second or third round, until he got hurt. Because of the injury, Hurst could not play in the Senior Bowl or participate in the NFL scouting combine. And he still wasn't 100 percent by his pro day workout this spring. If not for that unfortunate set of circumstances, Hurst probably would have been drafted instead of being signed to a free-agent deal by the Ravens this week. The 6-foot-5 300-pound player chose the Ravens over 17 competing offers, largely because the Ravens didn't draft an offensive tackle. Now, Hurst is set to practice with no restrictions at the Ravens' rookie minicamp Friday and Saturday. He's scheduled to play left tackle initially, with the idea that he'll eventually compete at right tackle against 2013 fifth-round pick Rick Wagner. "Obviously, this is a great opportunity," Hurst said during a telephone interview after signing with the Ravens. "Not being drafted was a disappointment, but signing with a great organization is very exciting. It's all new and I'm learning a lot. It's pretty awesome. "My leg feels great. I'm finally 100percent now. I'm really moving around well, and I'm doing everything and I'm not limited. I think that surprised some people. I'm excited to just keep getting better." Before the injury, Hurst had a run of success from his days as a blue-chip recruit growing up in Indianapolis who chose to attend North Carolina after receiving scholarship offers from Alabama, Notre Dame, Florida and Georgia. Hurst became the starting left tackle by the second game of his true freshman season, earning freshman All-America honors. He started a school-record 49 games and was named to the All-Atlantic Coast Conference first team the past two years. "I got a lot of experience, specifically from having two different coaching staffs with two different offenses," Hurst said. "That helped me grow my blocking skills and take to an offense more readily and different coaching styles. I'm just trying to use that to my advantage now as I try to learn the Ravens' playbook. I pride myself on my footwork, having good feet and just try to get into a good blocking position." Hurst's draft stock probably reached its peak when he effectively blocked South Carolina star defensive end Jadeveon Clowney last August. Hurst held his own against Clowney, reacting quickly to counteract the pass-rushing moves of the eventual top overall pick of the Houston Texans and limited him to three tackles and zero sacks. Hurst said his confidence got a major boost from his performance against Clowney. "I think that game meant a lot with Clowney being such a talent and such a good player," Hurst said. "It gave me an opportunity to show teams what I can do and that I can compete with people like that. It showed me what I needed to work to get comfortable in my pass blocking set. It was kind of a preview of the kind of athletes you'll face in the NFL." Hurst said the injury was definitely a frustrating experience, but emphasized that he's learned a lot from the adversity he went through. "Looking back, it is a disappointment, but there's nothing you can do about an injury like that," he said. "It was a speed bump. I'm where I'm at right now and I think this is a great situation from what I understand about the opportunity at tackle. No matter what, you still have to make the team whether you were a draft pick or if you go undrafted like me." Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-rookie-minicamp-0515-20140514,0,969094.story#ixzz31msBB5BH

OK gotcha.

I was going through what was new this morning and when I clicked on it the link would work. After I refreshed the thread was gone.

Yeah I think Vince's career is over. He wasted it.

Both kisses lasted not more than 2 secs each. That is far from slobbering. If you are hating on that you are hating on him as a human. That is a funny non PC joke. I didn't knwo they changed. Lots of schools have changed their nicknames over the last couple of decades. I don't know what the reasoning is for. So you should know that you don't have to be part of a group to be in support of it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/pfts-2014-all-unemployed-team/

http://www.accesshollywood.com/mark-ruffalo-gives-update-on-avengers-2_video_2159537?__source=omg&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=movies

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/mcshay-issues-a-2015-mock-draft-with-underclassmen-in-it/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/ravens-ink-another-draft-pick/

Yeah I see hat. Hard Knocks is an official NFL entity and also none of the teams want to do it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/michael-sam-gets-a-reality-show-on-oprahs-network/ I have mixed emotions on this. I think he should buckle down and just play ball and being in a reality show is not part of that. But then I see it as a payday for a guy who should look for every buck he can. Also how do you show that a gay guy is just as normal as anyone else unless you show that life?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/14/ravens-sign-three-draft-picks/ OK here it is.

OK I see he 7th rounder has. Who else is in?

Yep it says they are gay. I guess everyone on the underground railroad was black.

I have never seen picks signed so fast before. Chicago was first I think signing 4 in a day but now almost everyone is. Will the Ravens be slow out of the game like usual on this? Normally they are slow to get picks inked.