Den and NE making serious moves AND...

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...getting really good deals for the most part (not sure about Talib's deal).

 

I know it's a marathon and not a sprint, but our chief competitors are improving quite a bit.

 

 

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Denver is going to fail epicly. This looks like Lil Danny's spending sprees.

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Denver is going to fail epicly. This looks like Lil Danny's spending sprees.

 

Denver's going all in. How much longer before they lose Peyton and have to start over anyway?

[Oldschool739]

 

Denver's going all in. How much longer before they lose Peyton and have to start over anyway?

 

You saw what happened with the dream team in Philly a few yrs ago.....Too many chiefs and not enough indians, no go !!

[thundercleetz]

I don't blame Denver at all for going all-in. They have arguably the great QB in NFL history, who is coming off his best year statistically, for one year two if lucky. They are done when Manning retires regardless.

 

The Pats on the other hand make a typical Pats move. Buy low on a guy who has a good probability of a very high upside. Not much risk taken on with a one-year deal. They paid Revis less than what it would have cost to franchise Talib.

 

Ozzie will make his move. We are definitely getting a WR. And we are sure to be in on other team's cuts. More will come I'm sure.

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You saw what happened with the dream team in Philly a few yrs ago.....Too many chiefs and not enough indians, no go !!

Completely agree. There are just to many new large cogs at once. This kind of thing does not work.

 

I don't blame Denver at all for going all-in. They have arguably the great QB in NFL history, who is coming off his best year statistically, for one year two if lucky. They are done when Manning retires regardless.

 

The Pats on the other hand make a typical Pats move. Buy low on a guy who has a good probability of a very high upside. Not much risk taken on with a one-year deal. They paid Revis less than what it would have cost to franchise Talib.

 

Ozzie will make his move. We are definitely getting a WR. And we are sure to be in on other team's cuts. More will come I'm sure.

These are the sort of moves that gets you fired as a GM. They never should have signed Manning. He gets you to the playoffs and falls to crap when he gets there. Now you have to throw everything to makeup for his faults.

[thundercleetz]

Completely agree. There are just to many new large cogs at once. This kind of thing does not work.

 

These are the sort of moves that gets you fired as a GM. They never should have signed Manning. He gets you to the playoffs and falls to crap when he gets there. Now you have to throw everything to makeup for his faults.

Absolutely, there is no doubt that Elway is going all or none. At the same time the last two years the Broncos have had the best chance at winning the Super Bowl from the on set and they will for the next two years with Manning. Having the best team in the league for four years, if Elway wins one Super Bowl he's considered a genius. He's going directly for a Super Bowl not a dynasty. After that he's going to have to blow it up. Unless Osterweiler becomes something.

[OutsideRzAcE]

New England still doesn't have anybody for Brady to throw to. The Revis deal was nice though. I wonder why he keeps taking 1 year deals...it's very short sighted on his part. What if he breaks his leg?

[cravnravn]

Denver traded for Blaine Gabert, yea they all in. Lol

[cravnravn]

Absolutely, there is no doubt that Elway is going all or none. At the same time the last two years the Broncos have had the best chance at winning the Super Bowl from the on set and they will for the next two years with Manning. Having the best team in the league for four years, if Elway wins one Super Bowl he's considered a genius. He's going directly for a Super Bowl not a dynasty. After that he's going to have to blow it up. Unless Osterweiler becomes something.

Manning is still the qb right?

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Absolutely, there is no doubt that Elway is going all or none. At the same time the last two years the Broncos have had the best chance at winning the Super Bowl from the on set and they will for the next two years with Manning. Having the best team in the league for four years, if Elway wins one Super Bowl he's considered a genius. He's going directly for a Super Bowl not a dynasty. After that he's going to have to blow it up. Unless Osterweiler becomes something.

Except these all in shots never work. You just look stupid when your parts don't work well together well.

[RavenousBG]

As everyone is noticing, free agency big spending doesn't usually work. The Redskins do it all of the time and haven't won doing it. It's best to develop your own guys, pay them and grab an FA here and there to patch a hole. Denver is all in and who can blame them but history is against them. Will that team gel this yr?

[cravnravn]

Ok so new England overspent for Revis, who's covering the other side of the field...the same thing happened to Revis in Tampa. No supporting cast

[RavenousBG]

Revis is about revis and his money. He wants big money everywhere he goes so it's hard to have really good personnel at the other CB spots when one guy is eating 16 mil (TB) or 12 mil (NE) on your cap.

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As everyone is noticing, free agency big spending doesn't usually work. The Redskins do it all of the time and haven't won doing it. It's best to develop your own guys, pay them and grab an FA here and there to patch a hole. Denver is all in and who can blame them but history is against them. Will that team gel this yr?

No.

 

Ok so new England overspent for Revis, who's covering the other side of the field...the same thing happened to Revis in Tampa. No supporting cast

They kept trying to play him in zone in Tampa. They totally misused him.

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You saw what happened with the dream team in Philly a few yrs ago.....Too many chiefs and not enough indians, no go !!

 

I understand why you would bring up the "dream team", but there is really no comparison in my mind. Asomugha was way overrated and Jason Babin was no DeMarcus Ware. T.J. Ward is also an outstanding player (who they got at a terrific price). Michael Vick was obviously no Peyton Manning. The "dream team" label came from Vince freakin' Young for god's sake.

 

Right now, you can look at the additions for Denver (since their Super Bowl appearance) as Ryan Clady (one of the best LTs in football), Dan Koppen (their starting center), Aqib Talib, T. J. Ward and DeMarcus Ware. They will be a team to be reckoned with. I'm also afraid they will be a very attractive option for a player like Daryl Smith who is looking for a ring at this point in his career.

[thundercleetz]

Except these all in shots never work. You just look stupid when your parts don't work well together well.

I agree with you but if you give most GMs Denver's roster and say you have three or four seasons I'm sure most would take it. It's hard to pass up.

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Denver traded for Blaine Gabert, yea they all in. Lol

 

Gabbert was traded to SF.

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I understand why you would bring up the "dream team", but there is really no comparison in my mind. Asomugha was way overrated and Jason Babin was no DeMarcus Ware. T.J. Ward is also an outstanding player (who they got at a terrific price). Michael Vick was obviously no Peyton Manning. The "dream team" label came from Vince freakin' Young for god's sake.

 

Right now, you can look at the additions for Denver (since their Super Bowl appearance) as Ryan Clady (one of the best LTs in football), Dan Koppen (their starting center), Aqib Talib, T. J. Ward and DeMarcus Ware. They will be a team to be reckoned with. I'm also afraid they will be a very attractive option for a player like Daryl Smith who is looking for a ring at this point in his career.

Asomugha was a great CB. He was just misused in Philthy the sam eway Revis was in Tampa. Ware is starting to be get injured a fair amount. It is just to many new parts.

[RavenousBG]

Asomugha was a great CB. He was just misused in Philthy the sam eway Revis was in Tampa. Ware is starting to be get injured a fair amount. It is just to many new parts.

I agree about Asomugha. Philly messed him up and didn't let him play to his strengths. He didn't recover. Denver is going to have trouble getting everyone on the same page

[Money]

Asomugha was a great CB. He was just misused in Philthy the sam eway Revis was in Tampa. Ware is starting to be get injured a fair amount. It is just to many new parts.

 

Asomugha was never at the level of Revis.

 

I'm not sure how 3 players is "too many new parts", but I guess we'll see...

[RavenousBG]

I don't think Asomugha = Revis but he was rightly the next guy behind Revis. But philly tried to ask him to do things that weren't his forte.

 

Denver has paid big money. 3 big name, big money signings. What other teams have changed as much and they may not be done. Reports are that they want D. Smith too. That's 3 big personalities and egos that you have to fit into a locker room. It may not gel. The guys that are already there might even feel like they don't need these 'saviors' to win. But we will see

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TJ Ward is a great player, but he wasn't big money. All these guys were great fits and filled big needs. Talib's character is obviously a question mark. Anyone else find it comical that Talib now gets unleashed in Colorado?

 

Success is never a sure thing, but I'm not going to write off Denver because they brought in "too many" great players.

 

As far as D. Smith goes...as I wrote before, I'm sure Denver is looking very attractive to him right now. I'm worried.

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Asomugha was never at the level of Revis.

 

I'm not sure how 3 players is "too many new parts", but I guess we'll see...

 

 

I don't think Asomugha = Revis but he was rightly the next guy behind Revis. But philly tried to ask him to do things that weren't his forte.

 

Denver has paid big money. 3 big name, big money signings. What other teams have changed as much and they may not be done. Reports are that they want D. Smith too. That's 3 big personalities and egos that you have to fit into a locker room. It may not gel. The guys that are already there might even feel like they don't need these 'saviors' to win. But we will see

Agreed and it isn't just 3 new players but 3 big players. Had it been say Ware and then a couple of rookies at ttheir respective spots then the rookies have to fit into the pecking order. Also you have to learn the guy next to you. Also I don't think Miller will be playing until oct or nov.

[Robjr83]

Heard Wilfork's asking to be released. Crazy offseason so far.