papasmurfbell Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/16/greg-littles-release-leaves-browns-with-one-player-left-from-julio-jones-trade/ Those who didn’t like the Browns trading down in the 2011 NFL Draft have reason to like it even less today.The Browns’ release of wideout Greg Littleon Friday leaves Cleveland with just one player left from a five draft-pick package acquired from Atlanta three years ago — defensive tackle Phil Taylor.The massive trade landed the Falcons the No. 6 overall pick, which Atlanta used on wideout Julio Jones, who has established himself as a game-breaker.In moving down from No. 6 pick, the Browns received three 2011 selections: the Falcons’ first-round pick (No. 27), the Falcons’ second-round pick (No. 59) and the Falcons’ fourth-round pick (No. 124). They also received the Falcons’ No. 1 pick in 2012 (No. 22) and their No. 4 pick in 2012 (No. 118).Using the first of their three 2011 picks from the Falcons, the Browns moved up to No. 21 in the 2011 draft to take Taylor, who has been a solid starter for Cleveland throughout this three-season career.From there, the Browns’ draft work didn’t go quite as well.With their next pick from the Falcons (No. 59), the Browns took Little. By the numbers, Little’s stint with Cleveland wasn’t a complete loss (155 passes for 1,821 yards, eight TDs). However, he struggled with drops at times, and the Browns didn’t even see fit to keep him for a fourth season at a relatively low cost. What’s more, only 21 of his catches went for 20 yards or more (13.5 percent).Jones, meanwhile, has become a star in Atlanta, though a foot injury did prematurely end his 2013 season. He’s hauled 174 passes for 2,737 yards and 20 TDs since 2011, with nearly a quarter of his catches going for 20 yards or more (42-of-174).The Browns’ final Atlanta pick of 2011 (No. 124) was used on fullback Owen Marecic, who played 24 games in two seasons for Cleveland before being waived in August 2013. Marecic, who had a short stint with San Francisco last season, is currently out of the NFL. In all, Marecic caught five passes for 31 yards and rushed four times for eight yards in regular season play with the Browns.The Browns didn’t fare any better with Atlanta’s picks in 2012. QuarterbackBrandon Weeden, whom the Browns took in the Falcons’ spot in the draft order (No. 22), was waived earlier this offseason after just two seasons with Cleveland.And in the end, the Browns didn’t exercise the Falcons’ fourth-rounder (No. 118). They traded it to Minnesota to move up from No. 4 to No. 3 to select running backTrent Richardson.Richardson, of course, is also no longer in Cleveland, but the Browns were at least able to get a 2014 No. 1 pick in return for the former Alabama back.In all, the Browns have less than they would have hoped for after such a draft-pick haul. However, there is one caveat. The pick the Browns acquired from Indianapolis for Richardson (No. 26 in 2014) was dealt to Philadelphia to move up to take quarterback Johnny Manziel No. 22 overall in last week’s draft. Perhaps this is a branch of the trade tree that will bear fruit.Moreover, it’s perhaps too easy to simply call the Falcons the runaway winner of the Jones trade without conceding that Atlanta did forego some opportunities to build up its depth by dealing away its pick and four others for the talented wideout.On the other hand, the Falcons aggressively targeted a high pick and came away with a blue-chip player.The Browns took the volume approach, and there is data to suggest that is not a bad approach.But without the proper execution, it is just action, not accomplishment. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Oh the browns will always be the browns. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 17, 2014 Author Posted May 17, 2014 Not as of this draft I don't think. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Not as of this draft I don't think.I still would I don't buy Johnny lasting in this league. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 He will not have nearly as bad a D as he did at A&M. He will not have to carry the whole team. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 He will not have nearly as bad a D as he did at A&M. He will not have to carry the whole team.I just don't think his play translates to the NFL. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 He will not have nearly as bad a D as he did at A&M. He will not have to carry the whole team. No, he'll just have to face 2 of the nastiest D's in the league 4x a season, Im with Steel, hes not lasting long in this league Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 And the Browns D is pretty damned solid. That A&M would just give TD's to whoever they played. He was forced to score one next. He had to force the issue all the time. That should not be needed on the BRowns. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Youre giving the Browns too much credit Pops, until they prove otherwise, they are still the Browns, Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 I am looking at what their parts have done in the past. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I don't see Johnny last that long either. How long did Tebow last? Why didn't they just sign Timmy? Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 Tebow can't throw a football. Johnny can make almost every throw. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Tebow can't throw a football. Johnny can make almost every throw.What I seen, and a good thing was Johnny running around throwing the ball. Don't put him up next to Big Ben is a joke, no not saying you said that but heard it the media. Ask RG3 how he is feeling. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 I don't see Johnny running around recklessly like RG3. Last yr he worked well from the pocket. You could see he was practicing that. When he was required to run around and create he did. I think he will do a better Kap. Quote
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