varaven45 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 We will know in an hour whether the Os are "going for it" like the A's. If we snag Price (or another top line player), then we are serious about winning it all.If we do nothing (my bet), we are just interested a ticket to the dance. Quote
ForceEight Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 I disagree. Our prospects are more valuable than any starting pitching that seems to be on the market, and I can't imagine they're game for selling for relief, especially with Jimenez coming back as the extra arm to replace someone. At this point, I think the smartest move is to stay. Quote
varaven45 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 Force, I didn't say "going for it" is the right move. I just don't think we will. Sometimes, "going for it" works; sometimes not. Only time will tell whether the A's strategy will work and if its the smart move. I do agree the team will stand pat and do with what we've got. . Quote
ForceEight Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Well that being said, looks like we gave up Rodriguez for Andrew Miller... Quote
Spen Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 I hope we stand pat. I think that's what they should do at this stage. I think they can make the playoffs as they are. If I didn't think that then I would like them to make a move. Quote
dc. Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 The Yanks aren't a major threat. The Sox have given up. Without Price, the Rays are practically conceding the division. The Jays are the only serious threat left and I think we can hold them off - I don't like their pitching much either. Quote
ForceEight Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 That being said, the A's and Tigers have both decided they're winning the pennant this year, so the postseason should be miserable. News for Crav: the Yankees designated Roberts for assignment today, as well. Quote
cravnravn Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 No wonder they cant get Rays fans into that stadium, they are on a remarkable run, what june they were 18 games below .500, they are only 7 1/2 games back and they treade their ace pitcher away?? makes no sense at all. Thats something Angelos would do pre-Buck era Quote
dc. Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 What makes sense about it is that they would be unable to sign him next year - so unless they were really confident they could a) close the gap to win and b) actually do damage in the playoffs, they would be losing him at year's end with almost no compensation. Instead, they get the compensation and a better shot next year and forward. Meanwhile, Angelos would NEVER do that trade because he liked his "big money" stars. It was a rare day when we unloaded at the deadline - at least anyone truly decent. Angelos would always keep them for the tickets they could sell, but in turn he'd be selling off the long-run future of team (14 years worth or so). A's and Tigers both look great now. Tigers in the playoffs you have to face Scherzer / Price / Verlander... even if Verlander is off his game, that's hard. And that could be the entire 5 game series! Meanwhile A's you get Gray / Samardizja / Lester. At least the O's can hit. We have shown the ability to beat up on guys like Weaver, Verlander, and even Price. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 You live by the HR you die by it. In the PO's that can easily disappear. Sometimes you need to manufacture runs and the O's can't do that. Quote
thundercleetz Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I love the Miller deal, the guy has an exceptional K/9 of nearly 15. We now have two legitimate set up men in Miller and O'Day. Miller also allows Matusz to be an exclusive lefty specialist. Great move. Never much of a fan of Eduardo Rodriguez. Scouts say he isn't much more than a reliever, kind of reminds me of Radhames Liz. Quote
dc. Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 You live by the HR you die by it. In the PO's that can easily disappear. Sometimes you need to manufacture runs and the O's can't do that.Certainly, but the O's are showing more ability to manufacture runs in the last month plus which happens to correspond to taking and holding first and one of the best records in the league. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 They are still so incredibly slow. The A's and Tiger's staffs I just don't see as beatable on a 3 days rest rotation. Quote
cravnravn Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 That being said, the A's and Tigers have both decided they're winning the pennant this year, so the postseason should be miserable. News for Crav: the Yankees designated Roberts for assignment today, as well.Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, he was 2 games from receiving a quarter million dollar roster bonus. Quote
dc. Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 They are still so incredibly slow. The A's and Tiger's staffs I just don't see as beatable on a 3 days rest rotation.Lots of his teams have been slow but it certainly doesn't help manufacture runs. Definitely hard to beat those staffs, but all of them are beatable individually - take our one or two and you have a chance. Quote
ForceEight Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Don't forget Kazmir on the A's. Plus Hammel and Chavez now in competition for the fifth spot. That's about as full of a rotation as I can remember in awhile. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Lots of his teams have been slow but it certainly doesn't help manufacture runs. Definitely hard to beat those staffs, but all of them are beatable individually - take our one or two and you have a chance.You need some speed to take bases. It would also be nice if they could bunt. Quote
dc. Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 You need some speed to take bases. It would also be nice if they could bunt.Stealing is one kind of small ball but you can manufacture without stealing. Bunting I will give you, we can't do it Quote
dc. Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Don't forget Kazmir on the A's. Plus Hammel and Chavez now in competition for the fifth spot. That's about as full of a rotation as I can remember in awhile.Certainly but it's really only the to three that matter come payoff time. I'm still convinced Samardzija will come down and Hammel already has Quote
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