Harbs, yes, it's time

[oldno82]

There's enough poorly managed franchises around to at least make an offer I think.

[papasmurfbell]

My point exactly.  It’s to bad we have turned into one of them.

[tsylvester]

Na thanks, this team, last year under Monken, had one of the top offenses in the NFL. Even in 2023, thanks in large part to Lamar, the team was top in rushing, 4th down & third down conversions, redzone, for 2 freaking straight years.

So the only question is, and one I have asked, many still ask, what the blue blazes happened this year?

Lamar was extremely accurate, poised in the pocket, made good decisions, the past 2 years, then after the Bills game, the wheels came off, of everyone.

Fix the line, that is the only physical change that was made; one guard position.

We know that the line, even a promising player at tackle, had a major fall back in progress. There is only 1 reason for all of the players to play so poorly; the coach.

So, for me, the line coach, the defensive coordinator, because that defense is anything but consistent, not in 2 years. 

If Harbs won't fire both coaches then he goes, though I like rhe idea of him going anyway.

I am not thrilled about losing Todd, but with a change in head coach I guess the writing would be on the wall. I also hear the he is a top candidate for the Michigan job, so maybe he gets away from all of these Sally sad sacks and heads up north.

[papasmurfbell]

You can’t fix the line fast.  Also I believe Lamar has eroding skills.  I don’t see them coming back.  So I would start over.