Harbs, yes, it's time

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It’s both.  You have to have good position coaches if you draft projects.  I don’t seethem.  A team is a reflection of its coach.  We are a paper tiger just like him.  All talk no bite.

[tsylvester]

Warhop took over by default because of a dewth to D'Alessandris mid stream. He claimed then that he would keep things the same short term, then implement his styles as he became familiar with the offensive system and players.

Well, clearly the line has gotten worse since then. 1900 + yards rushing last year, top 3 offense. This year, great first game but bubka since. Injuries are not the issue, adjustments to rhe way defenses are playing the run, rushing the passer. Adjustments? None

If it were just Noteboom being the issue when fillinf in for Stanley this game, injury could be used. But no, it is the entire line. 

He has to go

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I go back to what I said 13 yrs ago.  Winning the sb was the worst thing for this franchise.  We have been in various degrees of stuck in the mud ever since.

[tsylvester]

I don't know about stuck, this team since then has had many years of still being a formidable defense, then was joined with a top 5 offense.

Sure, there have been post season disappointments but it has been great fun football for many years since then.

This year is the outlier, I say again, week one the offense picked up where it left off. The defense fell flat.

But then something happened, behind the scenes. A struggle with the Browns was almost expected, but a win.

It wasn't the way defenses played against this offense, we saw that type of spy game years ago, they figured out how to beat it.

But if you watch closely in that KC game, as I said during the game, the linebacker would fake rush and hang back. Then the center would help a guard block, only then would rhe spy then rush, untouched.

It happened every stinking time and there was either no adjustment by the coaching staff, or Lindy was not doing his job properly, it was his man every stinken time.

Harbs said yesterday that everything, change wise, is on the table, position wise. No coaching changes right now, for whatever that this worth.

People are killing Rush because of his picks, one of which was not his fault, it was Andrews, again.

He actually played well for as bad as the line played, replacing him won't fix anything, especially with a guy who cant throw the ball more than 10 yards.

But the line has to have some changes in it, one of rhe guards for sure, if not both.

The defensive line has to have a change if nothing gets better though the pantry is empty so not sure what they can do there.

[oldno82]

Maybe Harbs will let Cleveland out of the doghouse and let him start at LG. The defensive line and linebackers don't have any arrows left in their quiver so I don't see us stopping the Rams offense. 

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We made a pathetic trade.  Oweh and a 6th for some no name safety and a 5th.

[tsylvester]

2 hours ago, oldno82 said:

Maybe Harbs will let Cleveland out of the doghouse and let him start at LG. The defensive line and linebackers don't have any arrows left in their quiver so I don't see us stopping the Rams offense. 

I hope so, he plays far better than he practices  and certainly better than the big fella.

I'm glad they finally got over the failed Oweh, papa, not sure what you would expect for him, we all knew he was a waste, so a safety, experienced, and a pick higher is better than nothing. They weren't going to keep him next year any way, too inconsistent.

[oldno82]

Sure why not trade Oweh and get somebody who just might fill a need, and also get a higher pick?

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I didn’t expect anything for him.  I would have cut him long ago.

[tsylvester]

Cj Johnson Gardner on the ps, good player, ball hawk, head case. Not sure how his personality is going to work with Harbs.

No fatties to get, Titans have a couple but they won't trade with the Ravens. Jags have a couple but at 4-1, they won't be trading.

Maybe the Saints, doubtful the Jets make any moves with a new coach 

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Cam is probably the only one that is gettable.

[tsylvester]

Yeah, but seeing how desperate the Ravens are, that should drive up the price

[tsylvester]

According to the main site, the Ravens should save about $8 mil on this year's cap by trading Oweh, giving them around $18 mil in cap space for the rest of the year

[tsylvester]

I've been thinking, who could come in and help this team go?

How about, and be kind, Kliff Kingsbury? 

As we see now, he was not the reason the Cards stunk, at least not all of it, maybe he just wasn't ready for head coach in this league.

Maybe now two years removed, two years as an oc for a good head coach has helped him.

If Harbs does go, it is likely Todd does as well sadly. A progressive offensive mind would be perfect for Lamar and the offense just as Monken has been.

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No ok kliff.  There are a few I would like to take a look at.  Hafley in gb.  Brady from buf.  Minter from the chargers.  I had another couple but can’t remember now.

[oldno82]

Well they could promote from within and make Monken HC. He's certainly earned a shot somewhere.

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That is true.  But I don’t like promoting from within failure.

[tsylvester]

I've never seen a team, a total team, offense, defense, special teams, this inept. This is pathetic 

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But you will get coach speak about how proud he is of them and how everyone is accountable.  

[tsylvester]

Changes to be made is what he said. The horrible line play the past 5 weeks yet today we saw no change save Stanley who went out hurt again. 

Flowers fumbles twice, yet he stays in the game.

The guards miss blocks in the passing game, yet they stays in.

Buchanan still sucks, yet he gets plenty of playing time.

Rush, yes, he was not good, but had little help, replace him quickly.

Why does the tush push not work? Maybe because your center is NOT a powerful run blocker, he gets no push.

Andrews has no strength in his legs and stays too straight up.

Yeah, sure, changes. Who said to run the push on 2nd, 3rd and goal at the end of the half?

Henry ran ya down there, so you give him, a power back, 1 carry, on a stretch play using pulling guards? At the 1?

That series may have cost the game. A touchdown there gives them a 10-3 lead and more so, confidence. Instead it is 3-3, then 10-3 because this defense isn't grt consistent pressure and can't cover.

14 pts in less than 2 minutes. Yet the only change you make is at quarterback? 

Yeah, dropping 9 into coverage and a man still gets behind the coverage, yet no changes?