So what draft position will the Ravens be in? 14th pick

[tsylvester]

Solid team player, very good hands, quick and shifty, no way they trade him. He just needs to work from the slot more, but the Ravens have not used a true burner, like say Walker for what ever reason, on the outside.

The more likely trade candidate is Bateman, cheap contract, great hands but he too is a slot guy but he cant seem to stay healthy

[papasmurfbell]

You cannot give him a 35 per over 5 yrs.  He doesn’t score enough.  He is a complete liability in the red zone.  He needs lots of space to be useful.  If he can’t be here for a reasonable price he is a liability bc he takes resources that can help you elsewhere.

[tsylvester]

Given the organization's inability to find/develope recievers, one that has come along you hang onto. 

Bateman has success in the redzone because of Flowers and the tight ends.

Quickness is more needed in the redzone than speed.

[oldno82]

I think they'll reach agreement on an extension, but this way the pressure is off for a while.

[papasmurfbell]

I’ve seen fast receivers get scores in the red zone.

[papasmurfbell]

Zay is at 49th place with 5 tds.  That’s is real pedestrian.  He is hanging around with Hollywood brown and Gibbs for scores.  Not good.  Dudes who were part time players have mores scoring.

[oldno82]

Is that on him or on coaching/play calling? I would also think that bigger sized receivers do better in the red zone than the small, fast guys.

[tsylvester]

With Comcast still in a passing match with ABC, I had to log onto the peacock to watch... oy

[tsylvester]

1 hour ago, papasmurfbell said:

I’ve seen fast receivers get scores in the red zone.

I'm not saying speed cant get open, just that in short yardage such the redzone, quickness kills more

[tsylvester]

Chiefs gave up a lot for a corner, a handsy corner.....

[papasmurfbell]

1 hour ago, oldno82 said:

Is that on him or on coaching/play calling? I would also think that bigger sized receivers do better in the red zone than the small, fast guys.

I just don’t think he has a nose for the end zone.  Break huge play and reach the engine then.

[papasmurfbell]

well the interior is better

[oldno82]

I like the pick...just glad he should do very well in a position of need. Now we need a DL and a Center.