Annihilated

[tsylvester]

6 Points, another 1st round loss in the playoffs, at home, on Monday night, when &  where Mike T never loses, 22-4 overall, 12-0 at home.

Well, at least until last night. Sure, he has an impressive streak of not having a losing season, but this is the 2nd year in a row where his team didn't just lose in the first round, they were destroyed.

This year, against a team who kept dropping the snap on offense and only put up 17 pts, their defense scored 13 pts.

Is Roger now going to sail off into the sunset with his supposed wife?

Is Tomlin done? Yes, solid regular season record, but he is now 8-13 in the playoffs. He has now tied Marvin Lewis for most consecutive playoff loses, with 7.

8 division titles, 3 AFC championship games, 2 Super Bowls, 1 win.

But since Big Ben retired, nadda, zip, zilch, not even a decent quarterback. 

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Again a undermanned team that really had no business making the playoffs.  He drags them to better than .500 records but when they play real teams they can’t hang.  

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That game was glorious.

[tsylvester]

Tomlin steps down, wow

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Hey this is great news for us.  I hope Steve interviews him.  Again I will take Mike at the top with McDaniel as oc and Schwartz at dc.  

[tsylvester]

What? Really? 1 super Bowl win, same as Harbs. Great regular season record, not so much in the post season.

He is Harbs, the one you bash when the wind blows north. No thanks, besides he said he wants to take a year off.

 

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I trust with a better player acquisition apparatus behind him he will have top 10 talent and not bottom 10 talent.  With that he can fight top 10 teams which he can’t do now.

[tsylvester]

Why couldn't he get those players in his 19 years at Pitt?

He won his Super Bowl and got to another with players drafted BEFORE he became coach. Just like, as you say, Harbs did with his Super Bowl victory.

Once those players got old, were released, or retired, he brought in no one.

Should we go over the list of qbs he brought in & or drafted over the years?

Same coach, no thanks.

It is not a Pitt thing, I just see the two as interchangeable. OK, there is the whole stepping onto the field to slow down Jacoby Jones as he was returning a kick for an easy touchdown, where everyone gave him a pass including the league.

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Yeah. He didn’t buy the groceries.  I was saying 3 yrs before Ben retired that they needed to draft Ben’s replacement.  They never did until right before he retired with Rudolph.  Then they never lost enough to get a good pick to get a replacement.  

[tsylvester]

Purdy was the last pick, there have been several qbs taken after the 1st or late in the 1st, they could have drafted. Do you know the pecking order of the Steelers? Did he not have any say in when and who to draft? With his record, at the time?

You go to 2 Super Bowls, winning one, plus all those division titles, just when do they shut down and draft a qb early?

So Tomlin was slow on when to pull the trigger, they had a shot at Lamar and passed. Seems to me, as I said, he is Harbs, Harbs is him. What separates them is a win or two each year that can be attributed to players making mistakes. The ball bounces funny sometimes and it has nothing to do with the coach. But it does with a close win.

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Purdy, romo, and Brady are all unicorns.  It’s so rare getting a qb in the 5th or later that has any value.  For say the last 7 yrs they should have shut it down and done a full rebuild.  I think they will be a bottom 5 team for them next 5 yrs at least depending on who they get as coach.

[tsylvester]

I get it papa, but you are being a bit of a double standard here.

These two coaches, who both will likely be in the Hall of Fame one day, are interchangeable. They both took over teams with strong leaders in position and guided them, inspired them, to win Super Bowls. Neither of them got close after their respective leaders retired or were released, the Ravens dis get closer than the Steelers.  Same coach, one you would take over the other because you apply a rule to one and not the the one you would chose.

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4 minutes ago, tsylvester said:

I get it papa, but you are being a bit of a double standard here.

These two coaches, who both will likely be in the Hall of Fame one day, are interchangeable. They both took over teams with strong leaders in position and guided them, inspired them, to win Super Bowls. Neither of them got close after their respective leaders retired or were released, the Ravens dis get closer than the Steelers.  Same coach, one you would take over the other because you apply a rule to one and not the the one you would chose.

Ok let me put it this way.  Say after 2012 we had switched coaches.  Pitt would have fired harbs by 2017 with multiple below .500 seasons.  I surmise the ravens win at least 1 sb.

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6 minutes ago, tsylvester said:

I get it papa, but you are being a bit of a double standard here.

These two coaches, who both will likely be in the Hall of Fame one day, are interchangeable. They both took over teams with strong leaders in position and guided them, inspired them, to win Super Bowls. Neither of them got close after their respective leaders retired or were released, the Ravens dis get closer than the Steelers.  Same coach, one you would take over the other because you apply a rule to one and not the the one you would chose.

Ok let me put it this way.  Say after 2012 we had switched coaches.  Pitt would have fired harbs by 2017 with multiple below .500 seasons.  I surmise the ravens win at least 1 sb.

[tsylvester]

You are assuming that Lamar doesn't fumble or throw an int against Buffal or Flowers doesnt fumble at the goal line against Kc. Or Andrews catches those easy passes that either extend a key drive or ties the score as the game clock expires.

Or that Lee Evans doesn't drop the easy game winning touchdown against the Pats in the last few seconds of the AFC championship game in 2011 or in the same game, Cundif doesn't miss the easy, short, game tying field goal.

These are easy plays to make that have nothing to do with the coach but all kept a very good team from going to 3 other Super Bowls, likely winning at least 1 maybe 2 more. All of that with Harbs and would have happened with Tomlin.

Again, he won nothing after his 2nd Super Bowl appearance, except the the division title, 7 straight playoff loses, 7