oldno82 Posted Friday at 06:07 PM Posted Friday at 06:07 PM When camp and the pre-season get going, we'll have a better feel for how the O-line will hold up this year. Right now I do think last year's sucky coaching and Faalele were the biggest issues. Vega will really help the line play. Depth is an issue. Center might be, but I'm willing to give Pinter and last year's backup a chance. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted Friday at 06:55 PM Posted Friday at 06:55 PM 2 hours ago, tsylvester said: Na, just refine the talent. Block this guy, watch that guy, pretty "simple", it is just a matter of order which the previous coach clearly could not teach That’s assuming the trash heap center can standup. Also assuming Stanley can stay healthy. I think rose is where you are referring. But if those 2 spots are where I expect them to be this ol is in bad shape. Quote
tsylvester Posted Friday at 10:09 PM Author Posted Friday at 10:09 PM Well, you are assuming Pinter won't pan out nor will Bullock when he gets healthy, nor will Gwyn nor Dawkins at center. You also assume that Stanley won't stay healthy. Quite a lot of assumptions on your part partner. I think the new line coach and his new assistants will be much, much better than the old man friend of Harbs brought in last year. Shoot, before the death of the original line coach, Faalele actually played pretty well, well enough that the offense was top 5. So I think this new coach can do just fine with better talent. Quote
oldno82 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 7 hours ago, tsylvester said: Shoot, before the death of the original line coach, Faalele actually played pretty well, well enough that the offense was top 5. And the whole line played well coordinated football. D'Allesandris was the coach back then and after they got his replacement, the line was never the same. 1 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 17 hours ago, tsylvester said: Well, you are assuming Pinter won't pan out nor will Bullock when he gets healthy, nor will Gwyn nor Dawkins at center. You also assume that Stanley won't stay healthy. Quite a lot of assumptions on your part partner. I think the new line coach and his new assistants will be much, much better than the old man friend of Harbs brought in last year. Shoot, before the death of the original line coach, Faalele actually played pretty well, well enough that the offense was top 5. So I think this new coach can do just fine with better talent. They bottom of the barreled center. No confident. Also this is the 3rd straight time they were not proactive at the spot so I’m not sure they can find a keeper like the past. as for Stanley he is playing on borrowed time. He was not very good last yr. Keep playing Russian roulette with him. Quote
tsylvester Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago The centers in the draft were not worth drafting high, even then, they targeted two and both were taken too high. I can fault them for that. Also, last year, granted preseason, Bullock did very well, with a bad line coach. Sure, preseason but he did what good players should do, he dominated lesser talent. I understand what you are saying, frankly I would hwve rather they went after a center instead of another tight end. But they have a lot of options at center, one, just by shear odds, will pan out. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, tsylvester said: The centers in the draft were not worth drafting high, even then, they targeted two and both were taken too high. I can fault them for that. Also, last year, granted preseason, Bullock did very well, with a bad line coach. Sure, preseason but he did what good players should do, he dominated lesser talent. I understand what you are saying, frankly I would hwve rather they went after a center instead of another tight end. But they have a lot of options at center, one, just by shear odds, will pan out. I would like them to extend a center when they identify a good one. This letting them shine and hit fa crap is bad business. Be proactive. Quote
tsylvester Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago He wanted too much money and was more of a finesse center who got bullied when facing big nose tackles. You want to pay what he got, in this division? Quote
oldno82 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There will always be a few teams that will overpay for any position. $25 to 28mil for a Center is almost as ridiculous as a half-billion for a quarterback who's best years are now behind him because of chilling effect on the rest of the roster as teams divvy up what's left of the cap for the other 52 players. I don't think Linderbaum is worth what he got even if he was considered the best Center in the league. And I don't think what Mahomes got leaves anywhere enough room for the rest of the team. Quote
oldno82 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I tell ya, I shudder to think what Lamar is going to think he's worth to the Ravens when negotiations really get rolling. Quote
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